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from sunny San Diego I'm Greg Carl Wood

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operating your trusty digital lighthouse

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in the vast darkness that is lurking

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almost everywhere you look and if you

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meaning to describe a great unveiling of

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in an apocalyptic era because it wasn't

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that long ago that I would have been

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genuinely shocked to hear about these

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things that now seem fairly normal the

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coordinated mainstream rollout of a UFO

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campaign to find the next boogeyman for

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the military-industrial complex the

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sounding off daily on Twitter the leader

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of a black male fueled Hollywood

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pyramid families that procures wannabe

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starlets and brands them with a hot iron

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has actually been found guilty and is

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now in jail the quote-unquote suicide of

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Jeffrey Epstein in a maximum-security

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prison under a supposedly tight watch

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has made a conspiracy theorists out of

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every one an unmarked mass grave of

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hundreds of children's bodies has been

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publicly unearthed at the Vatican and a

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new Tarantino movie has come out that

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genuinely sucks it's all a bit outside

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of what I'm used to people but I'm

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rolling with it and I think we're due to

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talk about at least a few of these

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Jeffrey Epstein saga and his tangled web

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of connections as well as Keith Ranieri

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and the exposure of his own little cult

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and while these sorts of stories

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shouldn't surprise anyone who's familiar

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with Jimmy Savile is dark history the

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finders call Franklin scandal or any of

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the other dark dust ups that give us a

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glimpse into the child trafficking

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blackmail networks that wield the real

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power and deep politics got to admit

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it's odd to see the karma come calling

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like it has well here to help me step

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back from the edge of madness is a long

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overdue returning ghast who goes by the

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things with nonpartisan nuance and a

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conspiratorial clarity that is a bit

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rare to see these days on his blog by

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the nine which is largely considered a

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connection chronicler an eight-legged

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esoteric agenda exposure recluse good to

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have you back how the hell are you I'm

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doing great it's definitely awesome to

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be back on THC of the Sieber remember

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our last show went pretty well so

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hopefully we'll also be informed of your

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listeners absolutely man I am quite

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psyched the blog's that you've posted

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about Epstein and his vast network of

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high-level connections as well as your

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nexium coverage have both been top-notch

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and I know tht listeners are hungry to

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have us get into such things but when

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legal proceedings are going on which has

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been true in both of these cases I like

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to let the story play out before we

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dedicate a show to something that

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doesn't have an end and while I hope

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this isn't the end of the investigations

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Epstein is apparently dead and Keith

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Renier he was found guilty of sex

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trafficking forced labor racketeering

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and wire fraud so at least we have a

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little closure but the other factor is

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partisanship I can't tell you how many

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times an Epstein researcher has been

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recommended to me only to spend time

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digging into their work and given up

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because it becomes clear they're

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ignoring the connections that make their

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political team look bad something we

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should all be past at this point but

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really these networks of child

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trafficking and blackmail they know no

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bounds

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do that oh no absolutely not and I mean

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have highlighted to everybody which

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obviously it didn't which should have

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been drawn from it was that it

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definitely was bipartisan in nature I

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mean definitely Epstein was more go

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ingrained with the Democratic

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establishment there's no denying that

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but I mean clearly he also had some very

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conservative contacts as well both in

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the US and the UK there are actually

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some people in the infamous black book

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of his that also turn up and brexit as

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well so it's definitely a multi spectrum

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of politicians and different politics

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that were represented at naps teens

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black book no question yeah I also think

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it's pretty obvious that Epstein didn't

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kill himself he was definitely suicided

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the day after a major document dump of

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thousands of pages in one of America's

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most secure facilities only a week after

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the first attempt to kill himself off at

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a time when guards were told to leave

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for maintenance or were sleeping

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depending on which article you read and

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surprise surprise the security camera

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malfunctioned it's about as bold as it

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gets isn't it man oh yeah absolutely and

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then what was that he was taken off of

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suicide watch after a prior attempt on

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the 23rd after only six days I think

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there's actually some dispute now that

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he was his attorney who had been pushing

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for him to be taken off of suicide

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watched food so yeah I mean it's almost

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comical just how ham-fisted all this has

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been I definitely think there was

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probably a deliberate intention to try

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to further stoke the division in this

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country with the you know quote-unquote

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suicide before such obvious [\h__\h]

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indeed indeed and some people are

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speculating over if he's really even

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dead I've seen some posts that try to

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make the case that the body that was

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briefly shown on the stretcher was

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actually Hillary Clinton's brother Toni

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Rodham who did just die a few weeks ago

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but I don't know about that what is more

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interesting to me is that they called in

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dr. Michael Baden for the epstein

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autopsy and he's the same guy who was in

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charge of the JFK and MLK assassination

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investigations also testified at the OJ

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Simpson trial was involved in the

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Michael Brown investigation and his

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mayor

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- one of Phil Spector's Maine attorneys

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so he seems like the guy you call when

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you need a high-profile case to get a

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quick whitewash and go the way you want

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it - you know yeah absolutely absolutely

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yeah I hadn't even actually looked into

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that one yet but I mean it's hardly

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surprising that they would pull out some

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character like that for this

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quote-unquote investigation yep a

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gatekeeper of sorts okay to get into

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this thing there's still a lot of

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confusion over who Epstein was and how

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he made his money it seems pretty clear

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that he was a major player in the child

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trafficking business and that the

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underlying purpose of his operation was

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compromising billionaires and the

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political elite or someone I'm sure

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having a home in the aptly named Virgin

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Islands a known tax haven is part of the

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scheme but he's not one of these

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dynastic names you know how do you

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assess Epstein broadly what his role was

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and who he really worked for well he

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clearly seems to have been groomed I

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would say for this role for some time

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and I think a key clue was something

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that one of my readers recently shared

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with me KTV that he had been originally

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brought into his first job I believe is

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some kind of teaching gig at like an

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elite Academy or something like that it

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name escapes me but the guy who brought

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him in was David Barr who happens to be

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the father of William Barr the current

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US Attorney General who's overseeing

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this investigation and more importantly

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David Barr was also a or Moreau SS

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officer at the Office of Strategic

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Services which was the predecessor

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agency to the CIA during World War two

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and definitely based on what I've been

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uncovering there's a lot of background

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from this kind of old OSS Oldboy Network

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that sort of hovers in the background of

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this you know expansive network that's

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been going on for several decades but I

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mean Epstein goes out

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it's gonna tab by bar then by 1987 he

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encounters Donald Trump which as far as

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I can tell was their first meeting and I

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know Vanity Fair just had an article

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they published I believe just a few days

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ago that detailed how he met his Lane

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maxwell was apparently around 91 92

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shortly after her father had allegedly

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committed suicide under equally dubious

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circumstances let us just say and

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apparently it was Trump who had urged

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Epstein to get into contact with her -

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of course ashleen would go on to become

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his so-called madam and definitely I

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think was the source of some of his

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really upscale contacts especially in

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the British establishment but I mean

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Epstein definitely seems like someone

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who had been maybe talents scouted by

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this network you know when he was

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relatively young and was eventually

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brought into more of the inner workings

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by Trump at some point in the late 80s

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mm-hmm-hmm and I would just add a little

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bit to that first point which is yes

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Epstein was a college dropout in his 20s

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and he was hired to teach at Dalton

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school which was originally called the

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children's university school outlay

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enough but he was hired with almost no

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qualifications by the headmaster

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Donald Barr who is the father of William

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Barr the trump appointed Attorney

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General who was overseeing the Epstein

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case I mean that's a pretty strange

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circle of events just right there

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absolutely and it spirals out to insane

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proportions of course as you know and

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you know what's been most eye-opening

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about your coverage of this to me and

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how far you go in linking certain people

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and other blackmail networks is that the

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crux of all of this and similar scandals

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like it in the past is that we have this

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person collecting a blackmail file on

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the rich and powerful and the subtext of

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everything is controlling that file

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because if you want to take the country

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in a different direction then it's been

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going for the last few decades which

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seems clear over the last couple years

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then you need to free up the

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compromising material that keeps these

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political figures in line or you need to

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get it yourself as Gordon white put it

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in his recent newsletter if you're one

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of these kid [\h__\h] expect a phone call

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because you probably work for someone

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else now and I think that kind of nails

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it yeah absolutely I mean it's

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definitely a control mechanism and this

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was something that sort of initially

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came

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I'm sure there might be other instances

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but one of the earliest I'm familiar of

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or some of the revelations concerning p2

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the you know in finis Italian Masonic

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Lodge that was involved so heavily in

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Italian deep politics in the late 70s

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early 80s but I mean one of the pre reza

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quits for joining p2 is that you

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essentially had to turn over

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compromising material that you had both

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on yourself and associates of yours to

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the Grand Master Delhi so that they

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would essentially serve as control vials

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so yeah I mean this has definitely been

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a big part of this and it's not just in

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the United States it's clearly in a lot

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of other Western nations and probably

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you know even beyond the west but this

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is essentially how this system has been

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run for many years now mm-hmm

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absolutely and so many other people

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connected and not connected have gotten

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wise to how to set up stuff like this I

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mean that is the nexium cult in a

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nutshell from what I've read aliceandmac

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who was his right hand madam there's

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always a female sidekick because the

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female can get the women in line and

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they feel a kinship to another woman and

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of course that's betrayed but it's a

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pretty useful tactic and from what I

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understand when people would get into

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the inner circles of Nexium you had to

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send compromising material to a Dropbox

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folder she'd give you the link and she'd

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be like okay put some stuff in there and

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then we'll move you up to the next level

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it's the same story compromising

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material that you'd be very embarrassed

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if it got out you don't really know what

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you're getting into and once you've done

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that you're in their pocket forever

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absolutely and then I mean the other

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kind of curious aspect that we I think

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maybe got a glimpse of from the Epstein

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case as well were these lack projects

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that sort of hover in the background of

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course it's very interesting that

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Epstein had so many ties to the

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scientific community and many you know

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leading scientists like Steven Hawkins

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and so forth and that definitely raises

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some interesting questions especially in

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regards to his Mexico property a lot of

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these allegations that he was very

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interested in eugenics and transhumanism

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and so forth and this has been something

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that she just kind of brought up Gordon

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white the great Gordon white of Haroon

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soup who is really compelling Lee argued

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for years now that these hill

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it funds that were generated through

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drug trafficking and like had possibly

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been used to fund some of this black

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research this research that you really

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not want the public to know about in the

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case of Epstein is a former attorney

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even said that he had a keen interest in

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genetic manipulation and obviously this

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is something that if you were to even

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try to do it in a public forum or

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something it would take years to

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probably even get you know legislation

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passed allowing you to do it so a guy

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like Epstein with his resources he would

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have been in a great position to do this

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or at least sponsor this kind of

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research on the Qt so to speak with

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nobody being aware of it mm-hmm mm-hmm

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excellent points and I definitely want

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to get into that black project stuff I

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mean it is some of the wildest material

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in this saga but I wanted to do a little

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more foundational stuff first and maybe

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run through some of the names in

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Epstein's little black book of course it

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doesn't necessarily implicate these

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people in any crime but it ain't good to

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be in that book what names did you see

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how far and why does this stretch I mean

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it definitely stretches all across the

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United States and the British

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establishment there's even you know some

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Israelis and so forth and there it's

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definitely a far-reaching network of

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contacts that Epstein had no question

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obviously there were quite a few

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interesting names there a lot of people

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probably would focus on the you know

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ones link to the entertainment industry

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you had some ones that were rather

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expected I suppose in the sense Kevin

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Spacey Michael Jackson Ralph Fiennes was

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kind of an interesting one there he's a

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distant relation of the royal family

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Courtney Love who I'm sure you're aware

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there are quite a considerable amount of

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conspiracy theories surrounding her and

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the death of Kurt Cobain yet Bob

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Weinstein the brother of Harvey

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Weinstein who appears to have been a

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sexual predator for any number of years

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he had quite a few women to commit

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sexual acts with him as part of his job

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overseeing Miramax and then of course

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you have the broths some of the you know

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real big political dynasties the

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Rothschild

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have representatives in the book

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specifically Evelyn de Rothschild who's

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one of the major ones and also another

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associate of the Rothschilds family who

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had previously been implicated as a

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pedophile who was Peter Mandelson who

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had also been a big factor in the Labour

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Party in the UK he had worked with Tony

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Blair and Gordon Brown and their

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administrations he was part of a very

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progressive think tank known as policy

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network

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there were also multiple members of the

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Kennedy family I believe almost half a

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dozen members that were present in

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Epstein's black book Henry Kissinger's

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in there I mean absolute pinnacle you

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know political sections movements and so

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forth Kissinger is definitely one of the

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most connected leads of the 20th century

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and beyond no question you've got David

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Koch part of the famous Koch family who

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have been a major backers of the

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libertarian movement in the United

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States and then of course there are the

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inevitable British connections you've

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got William asked her part of the story

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asked her family there's Mark Getty

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who's part of the Getty family that

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originated in the United States members

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of the gold Smith family the Hamm bro

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family the so mez I mean these were all

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major players within the UK for many

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many years now so certainly her goes to

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the upper echelon I would say of the

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establishments in both the United States

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and the United Kingdom's

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based on the names that I've seen in

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this black book yes indeed and I was

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just crossing them off my list as you

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were naming people but the only other

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ones I'd throw in there

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alec baldwin andrew cuomo the governor

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of new york the nephew of george soros

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prince andrew as you said members of the

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Astor family the Cecil family couple of

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Geddes for good measure and that Ralph

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Fiennes guy that you mentioned I didn't

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know who he was but he played Voldemort

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in the Harry Potter movies for anyone

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who wasn't sure yeah yeah yeah I think

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he also got an Oscar nomination for the

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English Patient back in the day he's

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definitely been in quite a few films

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though but certainly it's definitely

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interesting that he has that ties to the

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Royal since it seems like Epstein had

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made some contacts obviously with Prince

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Andrew but who knows who else might have

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also

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boss past with him over the years yeah

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it's a hell of a list man for sure and

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if we're gonna talk about connections

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obviously people have been talking about

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the Epstein Clinton connection for a

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long long time Bill Clinton has been on

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the lolita' Express about 20 times they

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took a month-long trip to Africa

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together in 2002 apparently Epstein

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played a big role in launching the

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Clinton Global Initiative which was an

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offshoot of the Clinton Foundation also

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he Lane Maxwell who was Epstein's number

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two in command his madam as they say she

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was a guest at Chelsea Clinton's wedding

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so yes there is something here and I

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don't want to downplay all that but I

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just consider Bill Clinton to be one of

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many depraved sex addicts that are in

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the abstinence circle and I wanted to

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list those connections because I want to

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be nonpartisan but the Clintons are

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really just a washed-up power couple at

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this point middle management and a vast

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criminal evil empire of sadistic creeps

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yes

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relevant in 2019 not so much and there

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are a lot more connections or at least

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just as many to this current

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administration as you mentioned the bar

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one is curious but there's others that

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need to be looked at wouldn't you say oh

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absolutely and I mean yes the Clintons

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still flabbergasted by just the

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obsession that so many people on the

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right have with them and in saying that

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I'm not trying to argue that the

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Clintons aren't monstrous and evil and

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so forth but I mean certainly their

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importance to my mind has been grossly

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overstated for years now it seems really

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that the Clintons were very much a kind

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of propped up by the bush dynasty which

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had already been me wealthy and powerful

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for nearly a century by the time they

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kind of hooked up together and Mena

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Arkansas back in the 80s during

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iran-contra

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the Clintons I mean not to say that they

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haven't accumulated their own power base

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in recent years but they just you know

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or not in my opinion at the same level

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as some of the other families that have

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been present in there and then on top of

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that a lot of the evil Clinton mythos

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was really sponsored by publisher

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Richard Mellon Scaife going back to the

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Clinton chronicles the documentary from

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the 90s that he put up the funding for

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and Richard Mellon Scaife came from the

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Mellon family of Pittsburgh which is

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just you know one of the absolutely

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pinnacle dynasties in the United States

546
00:21:14,319 --> 00:21:11,929
they're up there with the Rockefellers

547
00:21:17,169 --> 00:21:14,329
the Morgans family which really hasn't

548
00:21:19,509 --> 00:21:17,179
even been a player for decades now the

549
00:21:21,639 --> 00:21:19,519
melons are a big deal and you know this

550
00:21:23,979 --> 00:21:21,649
is the kind of people who were filling a

551
00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:23,989
lot of this ante Clinton conspiracy

552
00:21:29,859 --> 00:21:27,589
theories for years now mm-hmm-hmm

553
00:21:32,049 --> 00:21:29,869
yes I agree with the Clintons are dirty

554
00:21:33,969 --> 00:21:32,059
Clinton's are not great but they are

555
00:21:37,749 --> 00:21:33,979
small potatoes in the big scheme of

556
00:21:39,219 --> 00:21:37,759
things especially in 2019 and to talk a

557
00:21:40,989 --> 00:21:39,229
little bit more about Trump

558
00:21:44,409 --> 00:21:40,999
administration connections there is also

559
00:21:47,049 --> 00:21:44,419
Alex Acosta who Trump had appointed to

560
00:21:48,879 --> 00:21:47,059
Labor Secretary and he was the one who

561
00:21:53,109 --> 00:21:48,889
gave obscene a slap on the wrist in his

562
00:21:55,060 --> 00:21:53,119
previous 2007 case in Florida so if

563
00:21:57,310 --> 00:21:55,070
you've helped Jeffrey Epstein

564
00:22:00,459 --> 00:21:57,320
maybe you got him a job at a college he

565
00:22:02,499 --> 00:22:00,469
wasn't qualified for maybe a oversaw his

566
00:22:04,419 --> 00:22:02,509
slap on the wrist from that previous

567
00:22:05,889 --> 00:22:04,429
case chances are if you've helped

568
00:22:07,709 --> 00:22:05,899
Jeffrey Epstein you might have a place

569
00:22:10,869 --> 00:22:07,719
in the Trump administration it seems

570
00:22:13,299 --> 00:22:10,879
absolutely and then of course I cost a

571
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:13,309
tried to argue that he had given him on

572
00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:14,570
the wrist essentially because he had

573
00:22:17,919 --> 00:22:16,159
been informed that Epstein was some kind

574
00:22:21,399 --> 00:22:17,929
of intelligence officer or something to

575
00:22:23,259 --> 00:22:21,409
that effect so yeah I mean definitely a

576
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:23,269
cost it showed a real willingness to

577
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:25,369
look the other way and I would say that

578
00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:26,690
looking the other way is probably

579
00:22:32,709 --> 00:22:28,609
something of a pre res acquit to serve

580
00:22:35,079 --> 00:22:32,719
in the Trump administration and this is

581
00:22:37,569 --> 00:22:35,089
another thing so people who are holding

582
00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:37,579
on to this Trump superhero narrative

583
00:22:43,329 --> 00:22:40,159
always like to point out that Trump

584
00:22:46,749 --> 00:22:43,339
banned Epstein from our logo eventually

585
00:22:48,999 --> 00:22:46,759
but that seems to be after Epstein

586
00:22:50,190 --> 00:22:49,009
recruited at least one miner from Mar

587
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,200
Lago

588
00:22:54,930 --> 00:22:52,480
if you've read the incredibly graphic

589
00:22:57,899 --> 00:22:54,940
court documents from the Katie Johnson

590
00:23:00,210 --> 00:22:57,909
case you might get more insight into why

591
00:23:02,159 --> 00:23:00,220
Epstein and Trump had a falling-out have

592
00:23:03,659 --> 00:23:02,169
you looked at that no I haven't what was

593
00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:03,669
that Oh God

594
00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:08,440
so in 2016 Katie Johnson filed a case

595
00:23:14,009 --> 00:23:11,440
for damages from both Trump and Epstein

596
00:23:16,830 --> 00:23:14,019
from abuse as she suffered and it's

597
00:23:18,330 --> 00:23:16,840
pretty detailed earmuffs kids but to

598
00:23:20,549 --> 00:23:18,340
pull out some quotes from the court

599
00:23:23,129 --> 00:23:20,559
documents the plaintiff Katie Johnson

600
00:23:25,710 --> 00:23:23,139
alleges that the defendants Trump and

601
00:23:28,349 --> 00:23:25,720
Epstein subjected her to extreme sexual

602
00:23:30,930 --> 00:23:28,359
and physical abuse including forcible

603
00:23:34,259 --> 00:23:30,940
rape during a four month span between

604
00:23:37,169 --> 00:23:34,269
June and September of 1994 when the

605
00:23:39,389 --> 00:23:37,179
plaintiff was still 13 she goes on to

606
00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:39,399
describe multiple forced sexual

607
00:23:46,549 --> 00:23:42,609
encounters with both of them she used to

608
00:23:49,349 --> 00:23:46,559
have to give Epstein naked massages and

609
00:23:51,509 --> 00:23:49,359
with Trump she talked about how after he

610
00:23:54,299 --> 00:23:51,519
would get off he would often parade her

611
00:23:56,669 --> 00:23:54,309
for her bad sexual performance at 13

612
00:23:59,039 --> 00:23:56,679
doesn't sound too far out of character

613
00:24:00,840 --> 00:23:59,049
for the guy but it gets really bad when

614
00:24:03,330 --> 00:24:00,850
later it says that Trump and Epstein

615
00:24:06,330 --> 00:24:03,340
argued in front of her who would get to

616
00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:06,340
pop the cherry and Trump called Epstein

617
00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:07,809
a quote Jew bastard

618
00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:11,350
eventually Trump did take her v card

619
00:24:16,109 --> 00:24:14,169
against her will and when Epstein found

620
00:24:18,330 --> 00:24:16,119
out he was pissed so he raped her as

621
00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:18,340
well then beat her ass then kicked her

622
00:24:22,769 --> 00:24:20,289
out saying they'd kill her family if she

623
00:24:25,019 --> 00:24:22,779
talked this is all in those court

624
00:24:27,690 --> 00:24:25,029
documents and this was events that

625
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:27,700
happened in 1994 and Trump banned

626
00:24:33,419 --> 00:24:31,090
Epstein from our logo 13 years later so

627
00:24:34,349 --> 00:24:33,429
assuming this court case has even some

628
00:24:36,989 --> 00:24:34,359
truth to it

629
00:24:39,749 --> 00:24:36,999
he was probably banned over something

630
00:24:42,379 --> 00:24:39,759
like clashing egos rather than Trump's

631
00:24:45,149 --> 00:24:42,389
moral outrage at what Epstein was doing

632
00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:45,159
well that or no so when he was finally

633
00:24:49,799 --> 00:24:47,200
banned I believe around it was over 7

634
00:24:51,419 --> 00:24:49,809
rights yeah that was also around the

635
00:24:53,549 --> 00:24:51,429
time that Epstein had started to have

636
00:24:56,190 --> 00:24:53,559
his initial legal entanglement so

637
00:24:58,499 --> 00:24:56,200
obviously if you are an arch pedophile

638
00:25:00,479 --> 00:24:58,509
it probably would have seemed prudent at

639
00:25:03,479 --> 00:25:00,489
the time to distance yourself from f

640
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:03,489
Steen as much as possible before people

641
00:25:05,340 --> 00:25:04,090
started

642
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:05,350
looking too closely into that

643
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:09,090
relationship mm-hmm-hmm yeah agreed

644
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:11,650
man and there's just so much to talk

645
00:25:17,220 --> 00:25:14,110
about with these connections but I want

646
00:25:19,529 --> 00:25:17,230
to maybe pivot over to nexium a little

647
00:25:22,529 --> 00:25:19,539
bit because there are a few ties that

648
00:25:25,710 --> 00:25:22,539
bind the Epstein circle with the nexium

649
00:25:27,690 --> 00:25:25,720
circle right yeah yeah absolutely

650
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:27,700
mainly through the Rana Halfmann family

651
00:25:33,779 --> 00:25:30,250
of Canada who were of course the

652
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:33,789
Seagraves heirs I believe right yes yes

653
00:25:41,690 --> 00:25:37,450
yes okay so in the Bronfman family had

654
00:25:44,639 --> 00:25:41,700
already had some strange ties to these

655
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:44,649
kind of odd new-agey type movements

656
00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:47,110
going back to the late seventies early

657
00:25:51,419 --> 00:25:49,390
eighties the wife of Charles Brown

658
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:51,429
aftman and his sister Phillip Brown

659
00:25:56,210 --> 00:25:53,130
happent Lambert had actually been

660
00:25:58,830 --> 00:25:56,220
financial patrons of ehre in Horn

661
00:26:00,720 --> 00:25:58,840
so-called unicorn who had actually even

662
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:00,730
a close associate of Andrea Pugh horik

663
00:26:05,310 --> 00:26:03,039
who was one of the Chandler's of the

664
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:05,320
nine also a guy who was probably a CIA

665
00:26:10,590 --> 00:26:08,010
scientist an artichoke and so forth and

666
00:26:13,529 --> 00:26:10,600
many other people associated with coup

667
00:26:15,630 --> 00:26:13,539
Harwick a lot of the support had

668
00:26:17,850 --> 00:26:15,640
actually come from Charles Brunn admins

669
00:26:20,039 --> 00:26:17,860
wife at the time Barbara Hoffman who was

670
00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:20,049
quite taken with iron horn she had

671
00:26:23,580 --> 00:26:21,760
actually continued to insist on his

672
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:23,590
innocence I should point out Einhorn was

673
00:26:28,169 --> 00:26:25,360
eventually convicted of murdering his

674
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:28,179
longtime girlfriend had essentially

675
00:26:32,399 --> 00:26:30,490
stuffed her body in a trunk in his

676
00:26:34,169 --> 00:26:32,409
apartment in Philadelphia which was

677
00:26:35,779 --> 00:26:34,179
finally discovered after the stench from

678
00:26:38,399 --> 00:26:35,789
the rotting body had alerted neighbors

679
00:26:40,110 --> 00:26:38,409
he had fled the United States and was a

680
00:26:41,610 --> 00:26:40,120
fugitive for many years I think he was

681
00:26:43,730 --> 00:26:41,620
finally apprehended in France or

682
00:26:46,769 --> 00:26:43,740
something like that in the late 90s

683
00:26:49,139 --> 00:26:46,779
Edgar Bronfman was the brother of

684
00:26:51,810 --> 00:26:49,149
Charles Brunn aftman and Phyllis Brennan

685
00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:51,820
who have been supporters of Einhorn his

686
00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:53,440
daughters are the ones who would later

687
00:27:00,360 --> 00:26:57,130
go on to support the nexium cult and of

688
00:27:03,029 --> 00:27:00,370
course his son Edgar Bronfman jr. also

689
00:27:04,860 --> 00:27:03,039
appears in Epstein's black book so

690
00:27:06,210 --> 00:27:04,870
certainly that leaves some interesting

691
00:27:10,289 --> 00:27:06,220
connections there that you can get a

692
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:10,299
ponder yes yes and a lot of these names

693
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:13,120
I do only read and I rarely pronounce

694
00:27:16,930 --> 00:27:15,250
but you've been saying Brian F min and

695
00:27:19,330 --> 00:27:16,940
I've been saying Bronfman you

696
00:27:22,420 --> 00:27:19,340
probably corrects I have no idea but

697
00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:22,430
this Bronfman guy yeah his daughter was

698
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:24,710
involved in nexium and the funding of it

699
00:27:30,790 --> 00:27:27,170
and his son is an Epstein's black book I

700
00:27:32,410 --> 00:27:30,800
mean doesn't get dirtier no it does not

701
00:27:34,510 --> 00:27:32,420
and then of course you have kind of the

702
00:27:36,670 --> 00:27:34,520
specter of Roger stone lurking in the

703
00:27:39,190 --> 00:27:36,680
background of all this - of course stone

704
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:39,200
had been he had some kind of involvement

705
00:27:46,690 --> 00:27:43,130
with nexium going back so around 2007

706
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:46,700
2008 there's been a lot of dispute about

707
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:48,770
this stone is trying to distance himself

708
00:27:52,620 --> 00:27:50,480
but I've seen some accounts that he had

709
00:27:56,350 --> 00:27:52,630
actually got nexium to put up almost

710
00:27:58,270 --> 00:27:56,360
$20,000 to New York Republican Party in

711
00:28:00,250 --> 00:27:58,280
anticipation of the elections that were

712
00:28:03,220 --> 00:28:00,260
coming up in 2008 or somewhere there

713
00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:03,230
abouts and of course stone himself has

714
00:28:07,210 --> 00:28:05,510
some kind of interesting connections to

715
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:07,220
sexual blackmail he's generally now

716
00:28:11,980 --> 00:28:09,010
considered to be the person who outed

717
00:28:14,050 --> 00:28:11,990
then New York Governor Eliot Spitzer who

718
00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:14,060
was having an affair he was involved

719
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:15,710
with some kind of prostitution ring or

720
00:28:20,050 --> 00:28:18,410
something like that so stone is another

721
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:20,060
guy who has a lot of these kind of

722
00:28:24,730 --> 00:28:22,640
contacts he's shown up in these you know

723
00:28:26,590 --> 00:28:24,740
kind of shadowy blackmail entrapment

724
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:26,600
programs of course he has a

725
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:28,370
long-standing relationship with Donald

726
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:30,770
Trump going back to the late 70s early

727
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:33,650
80s when they all seemed to kind of come

728
00:28:38,830 --> 00:28:35,810
into the orbit of trumps former attorney

729
00:28:41,410 --> 00:28:38,840
and political mentor Roy Cohn mm-hmm

730
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:41,420
yeah Roy Cohn is a massive figure in all

731
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:43,850
this but the Roger stone connection in

732
00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:46,640
nexium is really interesting I didn't

733
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:48,710
know all that much about it I mean he's

734
00:28:52,870 --> 00:28:50,210
probably trying to get close enough to

735
00:28:55,540 --> 00:28:52,880
access that compromising Dropbox folder

736
00:28:57,730 --> 00:28:55,550
we mentioned but also I didn't really

737
00:29:00,970 --> 00:28:57,740
know he was involved in outing Eliot

738
00:29:03,790 --> 00:29:00,980
Spitzer in that scandal and I wanted to

739
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:03,800
quote the blog here where you kind of

740
00:29:10,390 --> 00:29:07,090
sum this up really well and you say

741
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:10,400
Roger stone paid by nexium had funneled

742
00:29:16,090 --> 00:29:13,370
at least $20,000 to the state GOP the

743
00:29:19,150 --> 00:29:16,100
heirs of Seagram's fortune are devotees

744
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:19,160
and Richard Mays a Clinton friend and

745
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:21,050
one of Hillary's top fundraisers has

746
00:29:26,590 --> 00:29:24,050
also taken so-called intensive classes

747
00:29:30,550 --> 00:29:26,600
with Keith Ranieri and then you go on to

748
00:29:31,210 --> 00:29:30,560
say about the timing of the scandal and

749
00:29:33,130 --> 00:29:31,220
you say actually

750
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:33,140
I think the timing of the scandal is

751
00:29:37,570 --> 00:29:35,570
quite telling nexium appears to have

752
00:29:39,310 --> 00:29:37,580
established a working relationship with

753
00:29:41,470 --> 00:29:39,320
the Clinton family at some point in the

754
00:29:43,210 --> 00:29:41,480
last decade and eventually donated

755
00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:43,220
around a million and a half dollars to

756
00:29:48,190 --> 00:29:44,840
the Clintons and other Democrats during

757
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:48,200
the last election Roger stone who also

758
00:29:52,330 --> 00:29:50,450
handled political donations for nexium

759
00:29:54,940 --> 00:29:52,340
as well would have most surely have been

760
00:29:57,070 --> 00:29:54,950
aware of these ties is it possible he

761
00:29:59,080 --> 00:29:57,080
also encouraged the cult to ramp up the

762
00:30:00,640 --> 00:29:59,090
donations leading up to the election so

763
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:00,650
that he could once again blow the

764
00:30:05,410 --> 00:30:02,930
whistle as he did on Eliot Spitzer at

765
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:05,420
some point I don't think these

766
00:30:10,270 --> 00:30:08,090
revelations are coincidental at all with

767
00:30:12,610 --> 00:30:10,280
the ongoing deep state civil war as

768
00:30:15,370 --> 00:30:12,620
vicious as ever the control files

769
00:30:17,820 --> 00:30:15,380
amassed by Trump's lawyer Roy Cohn and

770
00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:17,830
his associates over several decades

771
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:20,840
increasingly appear as the sword of

772
00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:23,360
Damocles the orange one holds over his

773
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:26,390
opponents ever threatening to topple the

774
00:30:30,820 --> 00:30:28,850
entire house of cards and there you have

775
00:30:35,290 --> 00:30:30,830
it man well said indeed I definitely

776
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:35,300
think this network kind of rushed in got

777
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:37,370
as much of this compromising material as

778
00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:40,010
they could and this is why Trump is so

779
00:30:44,020 --> 00:30:41,510
bold I still think he's just a

780
00:30:46,210 --> 00:30:44,030
figurehead for a deep deep network but

781
00:30:47,980 --> 00:30:46,220
this is why he's so bold think about all

782
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:47,990
the stuff he said during the election

783
00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,410
even invoking 9/11 at some times when it

784
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:53,840
came to criticizing Bush's brother and

785
00:30:58,840 --> 00:30:57,110
then when it came to Ted Cruz he invokes

786
00:31:01,150 --> 00:30:58,850
the fact that his father might have been

787
00:31:04,450 --> 00:31:01,160
involved in the JFK assassination or was

788
00:31:06,940 --> 00:31:04,460
a pal of Lee Harvey Oswald he's got dirt

789
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:06,950
he's got a lot of dirt and he isn't shy

790
00:31:13,690 --> 00:31:11,810
about insinuating that publicly no

791
00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:13,700
absolutely not and that to me is

792
00:31:17,860 --> 00:31:15,830
definitely I think why there was so much

793
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:17,870
concern about Trump being elected

794
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:20,810
because and I mean in a sense he was

795
00:31:27,790 --> 00:31:23,330
really the first president we've had who

796
00:31:30,430 --> 00:31:27,800
was a true insiders insider since George

797
00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:30,440
HW Bush and even in that case George HW

798
00:31:35,980 --> 00:31:33,260
Bush was kind of an anomaly in that

799
00:31:38,620 --> 00:31:35,990
particular era and this sort of goes

800
00:31:41,410 --> 00:31:38,630
back to the whole thing with Nixon Nixon

801
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:41,420
was very much an insider's insider and

802
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:43,130
of course there had been kind of a

803
00:31:46,789 --> 00:31:44,610
dust-up between him

804
00:31:49,390 --> 00:31:46,799
Richard Helms the director of the CIA

805
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:49,400
when Watergate started to break alt

806
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:51,510
Nixon had kind of made the offhand

807
00:31:54,650 --> 00:31:53,490
comment to Helms that this might blow

808
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:54,660
back and bring up the whole

809
00:32:00,400 --> 00:31:57,210
quote-unquote Bay of Pigs thing which

810
00:32:03,410 --> 00:32:00,410
Helms it just absolutely exploded over

811
00:32:05,299 --> 00:32:03,420
but after that you had you know Nixon

812
00:32:07,070 --> 00:32:05,309
being taken out and then Ford became

813
00:32:09,010 --> 00:32:07,080
president and ever since then it seems

814
00:32:12,140 --> 00:32:09,020
like there had been a process where

815
00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:12,150
presidents were essentially selected as

816
00:32:16,580 --> 00:32:14,640
people who were not close to the inner

817
00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:16,590
circle power and they had been kind of

818
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:19,679
subtly groomed before they ascended to

819
00:32:24,140 --> 00:32:21,600
the presidency and as such were probably

820
00:32:25,970 --> 00:32:24,150
very dependent on their backers I mean I

821
00:32:28,060 --> 00:32:25,980
a Jimmy Carter he was essentially a

822
00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:28,070
governor from a minor southern state

823
00:32:33,770 --> 00:32:31,320
Ronald Reagan was a former actor who may

824
00:32:36,950 --> 00:32:33,780
well have been an extensive stages of

825
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:36,960
dementia by his second term Clinton like

826
00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:38,970
I said before definitely had some

827
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:41,070
connections but he was probably at best

828
00:32:46,010 --> 00:32:43,730
a middle manager George W Bush

829
00:32:47,930 --> 00:32:46,020
definitely came from a very well

830
00:32:49,340 --> 00:32:47,940
politically connected family but most of

831
00:32:51,770 --> 00:32:49,350
the evidence suggests that he was

832
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:51,780
essentially a drunken playboy for much

833
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:54,720
of his life up to that time he probably

834
00:32:58,669 --> 00:32:56,730
was being managed by Richard Cheney and

835
00:33:01,780 --> 00:32:58,679
Donald Rumsfeld and then of course you

836
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:01,790
have Obama who was a community organizer

837
00:33:07,159 --> 00:33:04,650
this is definitely a far cry from

838
00:33:09,230 --> 00:33:07,169
Fromm's background billionaire a guy who

839
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:09,240
had been in the inner circle of some of

840
00:33:13,940 --> 00:33:11,010
these you know major figures and these

841
00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:13,950
black operations and certainly I would

842
00:33:19,340 --> 00:33:16,169
say a kind of parallel to Nixon Nixon of

843
00:33:21,230 --> 00:33:19,350
course had been deeply involved in the

844
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:21,240
national security processes when he was

845
00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:22,410
the vice president under Eisenhower

846
00:33:28,370 --> 00:33:25,260
during the 1950's he saw a lot of things

847
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:28,380
and I do think when Watergate was

848
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:29,850
blowing up there was certainly some

849
00:33:34,010 --> 00:33:31,890
concern that Nixon might spill the beans

850
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:34,020
and something such as the so-called Bay

851
00:33:37,850 --> 00:33:36,330
of Pigs thing which generally many

852
00:33:40,190 --> 00:33:37,860
people assumed he was a reference to the

853
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:40,200
Kennedy assassination but after that

854
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:41,850
there seems to have been a consorted

855
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:44,130
effort to keep insiders away from the

856
00:33:47,930 --> 00:33:45,840
presidency usually when you had an

857
00:33:50,330 --> 00:33:47,940
insider in the presidency he was serving

858
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:50,340
as the vice president ie George HW Bush

859
00:33:56,780 --> 00:33:53,610
during the Reagan years and Dick Cheney

860
00:33:58,430 --> 00:33:56,790
during the bush two years maybe to some

861
00:34:00,590 --> 00:33:58,440
extent Biden during the Obama

862
00:34:03,259 --> 00:34:00,600
years with the one glaring exception

863
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:03,269
obviously being George HW Bush when he

864
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:04,769
was the president during the late 80s

865
00:34:09,109 --> 00:34:06,960
early 90s but Bush was of course you

866
00:34:11,270 --> 00:34:09,119
know a former CIA director I'm guessing

867
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:11,280
that they probably felt he was a lot

868
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:14,399
more stable than Trump a very minimum

869
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:16,290
which might have been why he was

870
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:17,970
acceptable in that position but

871
00:34:22,069 --> 00:34:20,639
generally Trump is not you know the kind

872
00:34:23,540 --> 00:34:22,079
of figure that they've been looking at

873
00:34:25,579 --> 00:34:23,550
is the President of the United States

874
00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:25,589
for several decades now and I do think

875
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:27,179
that was a bit of a concern to people

876
00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:29,490
when he was finally elected you know

877
00:34:34,550 --> 00:34:32,310
this is a guy who knows things you can't

878
00:34:37,790 --> 00:34:34,560
necessarily bully him the way you could

879
00:34:40,369 --> 00:34:37,800
some of his predecessors yeah it makes a

880
00:34:43,220 --> 00:34:40,379
lot of sense I love that breakdown they

881
00:34:46,970 --> 00:34:43,230
would select people for the presidency

882
00:34:48,889 --> 00:34:46,980
whose hands were tied they were on the

883
00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:48,899
outside but connected enough there were

884
00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:51,510
these people who their hands were tied

885
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:53,310
so they don't get any ideas when they

886
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,530
land on the throne you know they can't

887
00:34:59,390 --> 00:34:57,599
use that power position against their

888
00:35:01,819 --> 00:34:59,400
backers because they don't have the

889
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:01,829
information or they just don't have the

890
00:35:06,740 --> 00:35:04,050
resources I mean of course the Clintons

891
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:06,750
Obama you know some of these guys made

892
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:08,130
some pretty good money when they're in

893
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:10,079
the presidency and now they have some

894
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:11,609
considerable resources at their disposal

895
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:13,680
but that really you know was not the

896
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:16,140
case when they were elected whereas

897
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:18,210
Trump is obviously independently wealthy

898
00:35:22,069 --> 00:35:20,130
so I think that's also another kind of

899
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:22,079
factor that contributes to his power

900
00:35:27,740 --> 00:35:25,770
base as well absolutely absolutely and

901
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:27,750
we talked a little bit about the bush

902
00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:29,609
power network and I definitely think the

903
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:31,380
Clintons were just kind of lieutenants

904
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:35,010
in that Network but their power seems to

905
00:35:39,020 --> 00:35:37,010
of course waned a little bit - are they

906
00:35:41,510 --> 00:35:39,030
connected in this at all I don't see a

907
00:35:44,930 --> 00:35:41,520
lot of names that cross over to the

908
00:35:47,450 --> 00:35:44,940
bushes there is obviously Kish lanes

909
00:35:51,050 --> 00:35:47,460
father Robert Maxwell had employed John

910
00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:51,060
tower a former US senator as a lobbyist

911
00:35:54,530 --> 00:35:53,250
for him essentially in the late 80s and

912
00:35:58,220 --> 00:35:54,540
well there's some dispute as to how

913
00:35:59,780 --> 00:35:58,230
close he was to hapa Bush some accounts

914
00:36:02,420 --> 00:35:59,790
I've read that they were quite close

915
00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:02,430
other accounts as I've read essentially

916
00:36:07,099 --> 00:36:04,560
alleged the bush one that despised tower

917
00:36:09,170 --> 00:36:07,109
privately for many years but regardless

918
00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:09,180
they had both had a lot of dealings with

919
00:36:12,109 --> 00:36:11,310
each other for many years tower was also

920
00:36:14,179 --> 00:36:12,119
from Texas

921
00:36:16,219 --> 00:36:14,189
I believe Bush actually had served as

922
00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:16,229
his campaign manager or something to

923
00:36:21,769 --> 00:36:19,920
that effect but there were some ties to

924
00:36:24,709 --> 00:36:21,779
this network going back to late 80s

925
00:36:27,499 --> 00:36:24,719
Robert Maxwell but yes it doesn't seem

926
00:36:29,809 --> 00:36:27,509
that the bushes were necessarily at the

927
00:36:32,029 --> 00:36:29,819
forefront of this though certainly

928
00:36:34,939 --> 00:36:32,039
george w bush was the president during

929
00:36:36,739 --> 00:36:34,949
Epstein's first legal brush and it was a

930
00:36:38,929 --> 00:36:36,749
cost of working for the Bush White House

931
00:36:41,269 --> 00:36:38,939
who had essentially given Epstein a slap

932
00:36:42,949 --> 00:36:41,279
on the wrist so I'm assuming there

933
00:36:44,779 --> 00:36:42,959
probably are some kind of connections

934
00:36:47,269 --> 00:36:44,789
there if we were to dig deep enough but

935
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:47,279
after the bush is essentially petered

936
00:36:51,469 --> 00:36:50,160
out in the 2016 election you know they

937
00:36:53,299 --> 00:36:51,479
really haven't been on anybody's radar

938
00:36:57,229 --> 00:36:53,309
for this type of thing at this present

939
00:36:59,089 --> 00:36:57,239
time right right I figured if you dig

940
00:37:00,650 --> 00:36:59,099
enough you'd find some connections

941
00:37:02,299 --> 00:37:00,660
because there's just too many people in

942
00:37:05,509 --> 00:37:02,309
that network they're touching everything

943
00:37:09,650 --> 00:37:05,519
there's got to be some crossover and you

944
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:09,660
mentioned Maxwell that's another one of

945
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:11,729
those names I was talking to my wife

946
00:37:17,179 --> 00:37:14,400
about this and she watches a lot of news

947
00:37:19,819 --> 00:37:17,189
especially when mainstream news crosses

948
00:37:21,890 --> 00:37:19,829
over here and she says it's going like

949
00:37:22,459 --> 00:37:21,900
Elaine from Seinfeld but with a G in

950
00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:22,469
front of it

951
00:37:25,969 --> 00:37:24,150
Elaine all right we can go with ghilane

952
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:25,979
it's one of those things man because

953
00:37:30,319 --> 00:37:27,569
we're doing this a lot of this research

954
00:37:32,569 --> 00:37:30,329
in text form and not crossing over into

955
00:37:34,939 --> 00:37:32,579
the spoken word I should probably

956
00:37:37,279 --> 00:37:34,949
mention - I really don't listen to

957
00:37:39,319 --> 00:37:37,289
podcasts or watch any TV I know I get

958
00:37:41,539 --> 00:37:39,329
blamed a lot for my pronunciations on

959
00:37:43,669 --> 00:37:41,549
this and I'm really sorry guys but I

960
00:37:46,249 --> 00:37:43,679
only really see these names and you know

961
00:37:47,779 --> 00:37:46,259
printed texts like you're saying so I

962
00:37:49,579 --> 00:37:47,789
don't have a lot of type of reference

963
00:37:51,410 --> 00:37:49,589
for how these are pronounced like some

964
00:37:53,419 --> 00:37:51,420
people who are more into the podcast and

965
00:37:55,789 --> 00:37:53,429
YouTube videos and you know things of

966
00:37:58,279 --> 00:37:55,799
that nature but trying my best

967
00:38:00,199 --> 00:37:58,289
yes no worries and your research is

968
00:38:03,739 --> 00:38:00,209
great regardless of pronunciation but

969
00:38:06,709 --> 00:38:03,749
ghilane maxwell who is the madam for

970
00:38:09,739 --> 00:38:06,719
Jeffrey Epstein the copilot the female

971
00:38:11,089 --> 00:38:09,749
copilot that we so often see her father

972
00:38:13,279 --> 00:38:11,099
probably deserves a little more

973
00:38:16,609 --> 00:38:13,289
attention because he was kind of like a

974
00:38:19,489 --> 00:38:16,619
Rupert Murdoch media mogul figure who

975
00:38:21,410 --> 00:38:19,499
also was a spy for it seems several

976
00:38:23,419 --> 00:38:21,420
different organizations what can you

977
00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:23,429
tell us about him because he's pretty

978
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:24,320
important

979
00:38:31,450 --> 00:38:28,370
in probably where ghilane got most of

980
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:31,460
her tactics yeah absolutely I mean

981
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:33,110
there's definitely very compelling

982
00:38:38,860 --> 00:38:35,330
evidence that Maxwell had ties to the

983
00:38:41,350 --> 00:38:38,870
Mossad to the KGB and mi6 at various

984
00:38:45,550 --> 00:38:41,360
points during his illustrious career so

985
00:38:47,530 --> 00:38:45,560
to speak but certainly you know going

986
00:38:49,630 --> 00:38:47,540
back it seems like he was originally

987
00:38:51,610 --> 00:38:49,640
recruited to this sort of network of

988
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:51,620
very right-wing British intelligence

989
00:38:56,890 --> 00:38:54,290
officers city bankers and so forth in

990
00:39:00,100 --> 00:38:56,900
the media aftermath of the Second World

991
00:39:02,770 --> 00:39:00,110
War the guy who really sent him up was a

992
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:02,780
man named Sir Charles ham bro who had

993
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:04,370
been the director of the Special

994
00:39:09,340 --> 00:39:06,650
Operations Executive during the war and

995
00:39:12,430 --> 00:39:09,350
the Special Operations Executive the SOE

996
00:39:15,150 --> 00:39:12,440
was essentially the agency that the OSS

997
00:39:17,740 --> 00:39:15,160
was based on rather than mi6

998
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:17,750
specifically the SOE was really engaged

999
00:39:22,090 --> 00:39:19,250
in a lot of dirty tricks and

1000
00:39:24,820 --> 00:39:22,100
assassination sabotage all that type of

1001
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:24,830
stuff but it was also housed in the

1002
00:39:29,350 --> 00:39:27,530
Ministry of economic warfare so it

1003
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:29,360
tended to operate a lot through front

1004
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:31,250
companies and things of that nature it

1005
00:39:35,620 --> 00:39:33,530
was essentially designed to be almost

1006
00:39:37,300 --> 00:39:35,630
totally off the books and in fact the

1007
00:39:39,070 --> 00:39:37,310
British you know essentially denied the

1008
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:39,080
existence of the agency throughout the

1009
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:40,910
Second World War and it was very hard to

1010
00:39:46,270 --> 00:39:42,770
prove because everything was essentially

1011
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:46,280
in the deep private during this time now

1012
00:39:51,610 --> 00:39:49,040
the SOE was disbanded like the OSS at

1013
00:39:53,530 --> 00:39:51,620
the end of the Second World War and it

1014
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:53,540
seems like a lot of assets for it the

1015
00:39:57,550 --> 00:39:55,970
OSS and British security Corporation

1016
00:39:59,410 --> 00:39:57,560
which was an organization that was based

1017
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:59,420
in the United States to essentially aid

1018
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:01,280
the u.s. getting into the war effort on

1019
00:40:05,170 --> 00:40:03,290
the side of the UK that all of these

1020
00:40:07,810 --> 00:40:05,180
networks seem to have been essentially

1021
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:07,820
transferred to a private company known

1022
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:10,480
as the world commerce Corporation the

1023
00:40:14,740 --> 00:40:13,310
WCC I think was founded in 47 but some

1024
00:40:17,290 --> 00:40:14,750
of the predecessors have been around for

1025
00:40:20,020 --> 00:40:17,300
a few years prior but the directors of

1026
00:40:22,510 --> 00:40:20,030
the WCC were William Stephenson who had

1027
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:22,520
headed the BSC he was intrepid he's the

1028
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:23,930
man that a lot of people think Ian

1029
00:40:28,690 --> 00:40:26,690
Fleming base James Bond upon he was the

1030
00:40:30,730 --> 00:40:28,700
Canadian director the American one was

1031
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:30,740
William Donovan the founder of the OSS

1032
00:40:36,580 --> 00:40:34,090
and the British one was ham bro

1033
00:40:38,170 --> 00:40:36,590
Maxwell's you know patron the guy who

1034
00:40:40,510 --> 00:40:38,180
essentially set him up with pear

1035
00:40:44,410 --> 00:40:40,520
on press which was his first major

1036
00:40:46,150 --> 00:40:44,420
publishing house so he Lin's Maxwell at

1037
00:40:48,010 --> 00:40:46,160
rather obscene amount of money I think

1038
00:40:50,410 --> 00:40:48,020
it was like twenty five thousand pounds

1039
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:50,420
which was a lot of money in the UK in

1040
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:52,910
this time and you know 46 47 when the

1041
00:40:59,110 --> 00:40:55,690
country was essentially devastated war

1042
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:59,120
Maxwell uses the money to set up this

1043
00:41:02,980 --> 00:41:00,800
publishing house which specifically

1044
00:41:06,940 --> 00:41:02,990
specialized in scientific publications

1045
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:06,950
and through this network he started to

1046
00:41:11,650 --> 00:41:09,200
come into contact with a lot of you know

1047
00:41:14,170 --> 00:41:11,660
prominent Soviet scientists and so forth

1048
00:41:16,210 --> 00:41:14,180
and this is also when he started to come

1049
00:41:19,450 --> 00:41:16,220
into contact with the KGB

1050
00:41:22,450 --> 00:41:19,460
this obviously lazes a lot of questions

1051
00:41:24,610 --> 00:41:22,460
as to who exactly he was working for was

1052
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:24,620
that the British was that the KGB but it

1053
00:41:29,830 --> 00:41:27,410
seems like ultimately Maxwell was really

1054
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:29,840
an opportunist I'm guessing he probably

1055
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:32,090
played both sides against one another at

1056
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:34,970
various points but there's no question

1057
00:41:39,340 --> 00:41:36,800
that he continued receive a lot of

1058
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:39,350
support from this British Network that

1059
00:41:43,330 --> 00:41:41,690
it originally had rallied around the WCC

1060
00:41:45,550 --> 00:41:43,340
in the immediate aftermath of the Second

1061
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:45,560
World War and he would have a lot of

1062
00:41:49,210 --> 00:41:47,090
connections to this network throughout

1063
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:49,220
his career another one was Sir Robert

1064
00:41:53,380 --> 00:41:51,530
Clarke who would become a big figure in

1065
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:53,390
the mirror groove in the 1980s he was

1066
00:41:57,250 --> 00:41:55,010
also a veteran of the special operations

1067
00:41:59,320 --> 00:41:57,260
executive and another really interesting

1068
00:42:02,230 --> 00:41:59,330
guy that Maxwell had come into contact

1069
00:42:05,050 --> 00:42:02,240
with in the 80s that I just confirmed a

1070
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:05,060
few days ago was a man named Norman

1071
00:42:10,690 --> 00:42:08,930
Lamont Lord Norman Lamont Lamont would

1072
00:42:12,370 --> 00:42:10,700
eventually become the chairman of an

1073
00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:12,380
organization I've written quite

1074
00:42:16,990 --> 00:42:14,270
extensively on known as the Sioux claw

1075
00:42:18,190 --> 00:42:17,000
this was an organization that was kind

1076
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:18,200
of formed as an offshoot of the

1077
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:22,850
Bilderberg Group in 1950 to 1953 the

1078
00:42:28,570 --> 00:42:24,770
founding members were guys like Conrad

1079
00:42:30,970 --> 00:42:28,580
and now uh Anton Panaji and violet this

1080
00:42:32,830 --> 00:42:30,980
network was very close to a lot of

1081
00:42:35,380 --> 00:42:32,840
reactionary Catholic orders like the

1082
00:42:37,900 --> 00:42:35,390
Knights of Malta Opus Dei and so forth

1083
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:37,910
by the 70s it would bring in a lot of

1084
00:42:42,670 --> 00:42:40,130
very right-wing British Tories who had

1085
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:42,680
been close to this old WCC network in

1086
00:42:47,020 --> 00:42:43,970
the 40s and 50s

1087
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:47,030
the CERCLA is also an organization that

1088
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:48,410
I've chronicled in my blog was

1089
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:51,920
extensively involved in these pedophile

1090
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:52,410
Network

1091
00:42:56,540 --> 00:42:54,240
that we've been discussing with Cercle

1092
00:42:59,060 --> 00:42:56,550
has shown up several of its members in

1093
00:43:00,110 --> 00:42:59,070
the fallout from marked TRO the Belgian

1094
00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:00,120
serial killer

1095
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:02,160
they had members who were involved with

1096
00:43:05,450 --> 00:43:03,570
the Franklin scandal in the United

1097
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:05,460
States they were actually one of the

1098
00:43:09,710 --> 00:43:08,010
chief supporters of Colonia Dignidad in

1099
00:43:12,220 --> 00:43:09,720
Chile which was of course ran by the

1100
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:12,230
infinite pedophile Paul Shaffer

1101
00:43:16,820 --> 00:43:14,730
Sola CERCLA has been linked to these

1102
00:43:20,090 --> 00:43:16,830
pedophile networks in multiple

1103
00:43:21,980 --> 00:43:20,100
continents for decades now and Norman

1104
00:43:24,380 --> 00:43:21,990
Lamont was actually the man who

1105
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:24,390
initially held at the hostile affiliate

1106
00:43:28,310 --> 00:43:26,010
Paul Mandelson who showed up in

1107
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:28,320
Epstein's black book as a pedophile I

1108
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:31,850
believe going back to the late 90s so

1109
00:43:36,290 --> 00:43:34,710
Maxwell Robert Maxwell knew Lamont he

1110
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:36,300
had been in regular contact with him

1111
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:40,050
since at least the mid-1980s and their

1112
00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:41,370
last meaning that I've been able to

1113
00:43:46,940 --> 00:43:44,150
confirm was sometime in February of 1991

1114
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:46,950
which by this time Lamont was almost

1115
00:43:50,980 --> 00:43:48,810
surely a member of the circle he would

1116
00:43:53,810 --> 00:43:50,990
become the chairman in either 96 or 97

1117
00:43:56,060 --> 00:43:53,820
so you know that's a very interesting

1118
00:43:58,100 --> 00:43:56,070
connection right there especially given

1119
00:44:00,020 --> 00:43:58,110
the fact that Liz CERCLA has had so much

1120
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:00,030
involvement in these pedophile networks

1121
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:02,970
for decades now and Lamont actually

1122
00:44:06,770 --> 00:44:04,410
appears to have been one of Robert

1123
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:06,780
Maxwell's principal contacts within the

1124
00:44:12,020 --> 00:44:08,130
British government during the Thatcher

1125
00:44:14,810 --> 00:44:12,030
era Jesus man

1126
00:44:16,910 --> 00:44:14,820
it does go deep but you've just done so

1127
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:16,920
much digging on this it's really

1128
00:44:22,460 --> 00:44:19,650
impressive and you did mention the term

1129
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:22,470
playing both sides and I had a curious

1130
00:44:28,330 --> 00:44:25,610
question for you how do you assess the

1131
00:44:30,410 --> 00:44:28,340
cue crowd these days the queuing on

1132
00:44:32,660 --> 00:44:30,420
material obviously there are a lot of

1133
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:32,670
followers in that space they definitely

1134
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:35,970
cross over into myspace quite a bit but

1135
00:44:40,250 --> 00:44:38,250
I'm pretty skeptical of that material

1136
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:40,260
and that crowd and even though I would

1137
00:44:47,060 --> 00:44:42,720
admit that some of the things that are

1138
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:47,070
in the queue data dumps did reflect real

1139
00:44:51,950 --> 00:44:49,110
things especially when it came to

1140
00:44:54,590 --> 00:44:51,960
Epstein he was a precursor and kind of

1141
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:54,600
laying out some of those questions as to

1142
00:45:00,260 --> 00:44:56,690
who to look at that was going to go down

1143
00:45:01,970 --> 00:45:00,270
so obviously the queue person seems

1144
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:01,980
somewhat connected maybe it's something

1145
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:03,510
they could put together just with some

1146
00:45:06,190 --> 00:45:05,610
digging but I'm of the opinion that

1147
00:45:08,829 --> 00:45:06,200
there

1148
00:45:12,910 --> 00:45:08,839
are no good guys just because one side

1149
00:45:15,099 --> 00:45:12,920
wants to expose a vast network of

1150
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:15,109
entrenched power doesn't mean they have

1151
00:45:19,980 --> 00:45:17,930
good intentions well absolutely and I

1152
00:45:23,410 --> 00:45:19,990
mean I'm kind of reminded of another

1153
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:23,420
affiliate of La CERCLA British MP I

1154
00:45:27,460 --> 00:45:25,310
think his name was Julian Lewis maybe

1155
00:45:29,890 --> 00:45:27,470
John Lewis he was also a knight of Malta

1156
00:45:31,150 --> 00:45:29,900
but this Lewis fella had come into

1157
00:45:34,270 --> 00:45:31,160
contact with the British magazine

1158
00:45:36,370 --> 00:45:34,280
scallywag which had done a considerable

1159
00:45:38,260 --> 00:45:36,380
amount of research into these pedophile

1160
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:38,270
networks during the 1980s that were

1161
00:45:44,109 --> 00:45:41,810
present in the UK Lewis was able to get

1162
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:44,119
a hold of their material I think it was

1163
00:45:47,140 --> 00:45:45,650
maybe through a lawsuit or something I

1164
00:45:49,420 --> 00:45:47,150
can't remember off the top of my head

1165
00:45:51,220 --> 00:45:49,430
but he gets these files that scallywag

1166
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:51,230
had you know compiled on these

1167
00:45:55,839 --> 00:45:53,570
paedophile groups and he essentially

1168
00:45:58,030 --> 00:45:55,849
suppresses everything related to the

1169
00:46:00,670 --> 00:45:58,040
Tory Party that scallywag had done up

1170
00:46:02,140 --> 00:46:00,680
and he only you know uses the material

1171
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:02,150
that had been found on the labour party

1172
00:46:06,130 --> 00:46:04,730
and this definitely I think is kind of

1173
00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:06,140
playing into what you're saying here of

1174
00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:07,910
course you could even porn out to Norman

1175
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:10,670
Lamont himself he outed Mandelson who

1176
00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:12,650
was a big figure and the neoliberal

1177
00:46:17,079 --> 00:46:15,710
establishment very close to Rothschilds

1178
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:17,089
and progressive politics

1179
00:46:21,609 --> 00:46:19,130
I'm sure Lamont is probably well aware

1180
00:46:23,020 --> 00:46:21,619
that I mean a lot of Tories maybe even

1181
00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:23,030
more Tories honest leading labour

1182
00:46:27,309 --> 00:46:25,310
politicians were involved in these

1183
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:27,319
networks but as far as I know Lamont is

1184
00:46:33,250 --> 00:46:28,970
not talking about anybody from the

1185
00:46:35,230 --> 00:46:33,260
Tories mm-hmm it's like these people are

1186
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:35,240
involved in this espionage and

1187
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:36,170
counterespionage

1188
00:46:41,260 --> 00:46:38,930
and they're picking off members of

1189
00:46:45,010 --> 00:46:41,270
different circles but they're all kind

1190
00:46:47,460 --> 00:46:45,020
of interlinked to some degree and just

1191
00:46:51,609 --> 00:46:47,470
because you're picking off your

1192
00:46:53,980 --> 00:46:51,619
particular opponents in the power

1193
00:46:55,510 --> 00:46:53,990
Network it doesn't mean you're a good

1194
00:46:58,150 --> 00:46:55,520
guy that's just the thing that it's the

1195
00:47:01,420 --> 00:46:58,160
simplistic thinking that I'm seeing in

1196
00:47:03,190 --> 00:47:01,430
conspiracy circles that is really just

1197
00:47:05,290 --> 00:47:03,200
annoying to me right now we should be

1198
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:05,300
better than that at this point well

1199
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:08,000
absolutely and I mean it's also just

1200
00:47:11,470 --> 00:47:09,890
really hard to say even if somebody is

1201
00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:11,480
you know for instance democrat or

1202
00:47:16,010 --> 00:47:13,910
republican I mean we're you know exactly

1203
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:16,020
are their loyalties ultimately lay

1204
00:47:19,130 --> 00:47:17,850
I know you know one of the names that

1205
00:47:20,660 --> 00:47:19,140
came out in the court documents that

1206
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:20,670
were filed the day before Epstein

1207
00:47:25,660 --> 00:47:23,490
committed suicide was a Democratic

1208
00:47:28,430 --> 00:47:25,670
senator named George Mitchell I believe

1209
00:47:31,460 --> 00:47:28,440
who was one of the more recent names to

1210
00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:31,470
have come out and I just recently found

1211
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:33,540
out actually but fluke last night that

1212
00:47:38,810 --> 00:47:35,850
Mitchell had been a speaker for the

1213
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:38,820
CERCLA very recently actually at least

1214
00:47:42,770 --> 00:47:40,770
as far back I think about 2012 or

1215
00:47:44,420 --> 00:47:42,780
something like that which is interesting

1216
00:47:46,130 --> 00:47:44,430
because as I kind of pointed out before

1217
00:47:48,140 --> 00:47:46,140
let's circle it was essentially the

1218
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,150
probably still is essentially the

1219
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:49,920
Wright's answer to the bilderberg grew

1220
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:52,530
it has that same kind of influence and

1221
00:47:57,110 --> 00:47:54,570
sway but here you have George Mitchell

1222
00:47:58,760 --> 00:47:57,120
who was a fairly prominent Democrat who

1223
00:48:01,730 --> 00:47:58,770
was being brought there to address this

1224
00:48:03,530 --> 00:48:01,740
really reactionary right-wing Network so

1225
00:48:09,530 --> 00:48:03,540
I mean what exactly is he you know

1226
00:48:12,050 --> 00:48:09,540
really believe mm-hmm indeed so also to

1227
00:48:15,410 --> 00:48:12,060
step back to something you had said

1228
00:48:18,140 --> 00:48:15,420
about Maxwell publishing primarily

1229
00:48:19,490 --> 00:48:18,150
scientific journals this is interesting

1230
00:48:22,490 --> 00:48:19,500
because you also mentioned at the

1231
00:48:24,580 --> 00:48:22,500
beginning the black projects that seem

1232
00:48:27,230 --> 00:48:24,590
to be connected and we know that

1233
00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:27,240
Epstein's black book and inner circle

1234
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:29,910
included a lot of the scientific

1235
00:48:34,220 --> 00:48:32,130
community which is odd but that is

1236
00:48:37,610 --> 00:48:34,230
another rail I mean they got Hollywood

1237
00:48:39,650 --> 00:48:37,620
they got the political people they got

1238
00:48:43,730 --> 00:48:39,660
the dynastic families the money people

1239
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:43,740
and they're also going for scientists

1240
00:48:50,330 --> 00:48:46,970
and of course Maxwell's daughter is

1241
00:48:51,710 --> 00:48:50,340
Epstein's copilot and all of this so if

1242
00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:51,720
Epstein is involved in some of these

1243
00:48:58,510 --> 00:48:54,180
black projects it wouldn't be a stretch

1244
00:49:01,760 --> 00:48:58,520
to think that he had similar ideas to

1245
00:49:03,410 --> 00:49:01,770
Maxwell's father but what do you think

1246
00:49:05,420 --> 00:49:03,420
about that what do you make up the black

1247
00:49:08,570 --> 00:49:05,430
projects connection and this tie-in with

1248
00:49:10,310 --> 00:49:08,580
the scientific community well dudes

1249
00:49:12,380 --> 00:49:10,320
question I mean to me this is one of the

1250
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:12,390
more you know interesting aspects that's

1251
00:49:15,980 --> 00:49:14,130
come out with Epstein that I kind of

1252
00:49:17,930 --> 00:49:15,990
alluded to earlier but in the case of

1253
00:49:20,210 --> 00:49:17,940
Robert Maxwell there's also kind of an

1254
00:49:23,390 --> 00:49:20,220
interesting overlap with Epstein's New

1255
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:23,400
Mexico property by the late 70s early

1256
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:25,890
80s Robert Maxwell had definitely forged

1257
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:28,050
very close ties with the Israelis and

1258
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:29,410
Saud

1259
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:32,410
and during this timeframe the early 80s

1260
00:49:37,890 --> 00:49:35,410
the Mossad had managed to steal a copy

1261
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:37,900
of promise which was a software

1262
00:49:43,140 --> 00:49:40,050
developed by a company named as inslaw

1263
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:43,150
during the late 70s the early 1980s and

1264
00:49:47,610 --> 00:49:44,770
it was originally marketed to the

1265
00:49:49,650 --> 00:49:47,620
Department of Justice and promise was

1266
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:49,660
almost kind of early search engine if

1267
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:51,490
you will I mean this is back in the 80s

1268
00:49:54,990 --> 00:49:53,170
when a lot of these files were starting

1269
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:55,000
to finally be you know converted over to

1270
00:50:00,000 --> 00:49:58,240
computers and it was way for people in

1271
00:50:01,830 --> 00:50:00,010
the Department of Justice other you know

1272
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:01,840
entities to search these files and to

1273
00:50:04,020 --> 00:50:03,250
look for records and things of that

1274
00:50:07,830 --> 00:50:04,030
nature

1275
00:50:10,260 --> 00:50:07,840
now the CIA had put a backdoor into this

1276
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:10,270
so that effectively as it was sold to

1277
00:50:13,740 --> 00:50:12,130
other governments and intelligence

1278
00:50:16,350 --> 00:50:13,750
agencies across the world they could

1279
00:50:18,810 --> 00:50:16,360
keep tabs on what all was being said in

1280
00:50:21,150 --> 00:50:18,820
these files now these rarely stole a

1281
00:50:23,250 --> 00:50:21,160
copy of promise during the early 80s and

1282
00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:23,260
they inserted their own backdoor into it

1283
00:50:29,340 --> 00:50:26,470
and the man that they effectively tapped

1284
00:50:31,650 --> 00:50:29,350
to market it was Robert Maxwell Maxwell

1285
00:50:34,110 --> 00:50:31,660
was able to sell this enhanced version

1286
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:34,120
of promise to various African nations he

1287
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:36,730
sold it to several of the Southern Cone

1288
00:50:42,180 --> 00:50:39,330
military dictatorships such as Chile and

1289
00:50:43,890 --> 00:50:42,190
though his final coupe de grâce really

1290
00:50:46,620 --> 00:50:43,900
with this was when he sold it to the Los

1291
00:50:48,990 --> 00:50:46,630
Alamos National Laboratory and New

1292
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:49,000
Mexico he was actually brought into

1293
00:50:54,090 --> 00:50:50,770
contact with Los Alamos through John

1294
00:50:55,650 --> 00:50:54,100
tower former Texas senator that we had

1295
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:55,660
just discussed earlier who was close to

1296
00:51:00,330 --> 00:50:58,480
George HW Bush tower had arranged for

1297
00:51:03,660 --> 00:51:00,340
Maxwell to meet with the Los Alamos

1298
00:51:05,820 --> 00:51:03,670
people he goes there to Sandia which is

1299
00:51:07,470 --> 00:51:05,830
actually the laboratory where a lot of

1300
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:07,480
the United States has classified nuclear

1301
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:10,210
research was conducted he managed to

1302
00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:12,910
show it to them by 1984-1985 there

1303
00:51:17,580 --> 00:51:15,310
abouts and suddenly this gave the

1304
00:51:19,110 --> 00:51:17,590
Israelis access to you know many of the

1305
00:51:22,380 --> 00:51:19,120
United States is most closely-guarded

1306
00:51:25,530 --> 00:51:22,390
nuclear secrets so that certainly you

1307
00:51:27,090 --> 00:51:25,540
know a major food for mildly I mean from

1308
00:51:28,860 --> 00:51:27,100
an intelligence perspective I mean to

1309
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:28,870
get the I mean nuclear secrets in the

1310
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:31,090
United States it's been a fortune on for

1311
00:51:34,410 --> 00:51:31,810
Israel

1312
00:51:35,850 --> 00:51:34,420
so Los Alamos National Laboratory

1313
00:51:39,090 --> 00:51:35,860
bringing this back to Epstein is only

1314
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:39,100
about an hour's drive from his Stanley

1315
00:51:42,740 --> 00:51:41,010
New Mexico ranch there was a call

1316
00:51:45,370 --> 00:51:42,750
or a ranch or something to that effect

1317
00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:45,380
and that was also the location

1318
00:51:49,580 --> 00:51:47,730
apparently where he had been considering

1319
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:49,590
doing these kind of bizarre you know

1320
00:51:54,650 --> 00:51:51,810
genetic manipulations and things like

1321
00:51:58,670 --> 00:51:54,660
that apparently the father that he

1322
00:52:00,980 --> 00:51:58,680
wouldn't raise with his DNA yeah he

1323
00:52:03,950 --> 00:52:00,990
wanted to impregnate hundreds of women

1324
00:52:07,130 --> 00:52:03,960
keep them there in a small Shack and

1325
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:07,140
then spread their babies out around the

1326
00:52:13,340 --> 00:52:09,690
country I guess or the world to spread

1327
00:52:15,410 --> 00:52:13,350
his superior genes to make I guess what

1328
00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:15,420
an egomaniac would think or superhuman

1329
00:52:19,820 --> 00:52:17,910
essentially yes so you know and I mean

1330
00:52:21,830 --> 00:52:19,830
definitely it's very telling to my mind

1331
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:21,840
that he would set up this alleged site

1332
00:52:26,540 --> 00:52:23,610
for these projects right there you know

1333
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:26,550
in a close distance Los Alamos which is

1334
00:52:30,770 --> 00:52:28,650
the site of a lot of black projects and

1335
00:52:32,450 --> 00:52:30,780
what-have-you to begin with and of

1336
00:52:35,330 --> 00:52:32,460
course New Mexico in general there have

1337
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:35,340
been rumors for years of underground

1338
00:52:39,530 --> 00:52:37,170
bases and things like they're I don't

1339
00:52:41,090 --> 00:52:39,540
know how substantial any of this is but

1340
00:52:43,130 --> 00:52:41,100
there's no question that I mean at Los

1341
00:52:46,010 --> 00:52:43,140
Alamos at Kirtland Air Force Base

1342
00:52:48,290 --> 00:52:46,020
a lot of black projects are tested there

1343
00:52:50,540 --> 00:52:48,300
a lot of research for this kind of stuff

1344
00:52:52,820 --> 00:52:50,550
goes on there and then in the case of

1345
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:52,830
Epstein's property the zora ranch there

1346
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:55,110
was a tract of land that the state of

1347
00:52:57,950 --> 00:52:55,770
New Mexico

1348
00:53:00,320 --> 00:52:57,960
essentially owned right smack dab in the

1349
00:53:02,660 --> 00:53:00,330
middle of Epstein's property there's a

1350
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:02,670
bizarre structure there that looks like

1351
00:53:06,620 --> 00:53:03,930
it might be some kind of underground

1352
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:06,630
facility there's never really been any

1353
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:08,880
explanation why exactly the state of New

1354
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:10,770
Mexico would own this tract of land in

1355
00:53:14,570 --> 00:53:12,330
the middle of Epstein's property or what

1356
00:53:18,530 --> 00:53:14,580
you know this facility that's owned the

1357
00:53:20,540 --> 00:53:18,540
land is for what its purpose was so it

1358
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:20,550
definitely raises to my mind a lot of

1359
00:53:24,350 --> 00:53:22,530
very strange questions and as I was kind

1360
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:24,360
of alluding at earlier there's no

1361
00:53:28,460 --> 00:53:26,370
question Epstein probably had a lot of

1362
00:53:30,650 --> 00:53:28,470
illicit funds available to him from sex

1363
00:53:33,110 --> 00:53:30,660
trafficking possibly from money

1364
00:53:34,820 --> 00:53:33,120
laundering and so forth he could have

1365
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:34,830
potentially put up money to bankroll

1366
00:53:39,950 --> 00:53:37,410
some of these black projects that's for

1367
00:53:41,780 --> 00:53:39,960
whatever reason legal or otherwise could

1368
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:41,790
not really officially be done at this

1369
00:53:46,450 --> 00:53:44,880
point and certainly it's very curious

1370
00:53:49,940 --> 00:53:46,460
that the site that he picked for this

1371
00:53:51,740 --> 00:53:49,950
you know these potential projects was

1372
00:53:54,620 --> 00:53:51,750
right next to a very very highly

1373
00:53:59,749 --> 00:53:54,630
classified research facility of the US

1374
00:54:02,720 --> 00:53:59,759
months indeed man this is definitely a

1375
00:54:04,359 --> 00:54:02,730
hotbed of connections and as I learned

1376
00:54:07,279 --> 00:54:04,369
from you on the blog

1377
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:07,289
Epstein bought this land in New Mexico

1378
00:54:12,410 --> 00:54:09,930
from a three-term New Mexico governor

1379
00:54:14,450 --> 00:54:12,420
named Bruce King and the King family

1380
00:54:17,299 --> 00:54:14,460
still owns a lot of the surrounding land

1381
00:54:21,230 --> 00:54:17,309
and Bill Richardson also a Governor of

1382
00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:21,240
New Mexico is heavily connected Epstein

1383
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:23,609
or talked about in that black book and

1384
00:54:30,109 --> 00:54:26,400
it's just odd that he's so connected

1385
00:54:33,380 --> 00:54:30,119
with the New Mexico leadership and that

1386
00:54:35,690 --> 00:54:33,390
New Mexico owns this land in the middle

1387
00:54:38,990 --> 00:54:35,700
of Ebstein's land you show a satellite

1388
00:54:42,980 --> 00:54:39,000
photo on the blog that is just as you

1389
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:42,990
say bizarre it is a circular structure a

1390
00:54:48,950 --> 00:54:45,450
circular metal structure looks like a

1391
00:54:52,549 --> 00:54:48,960
silo but yet it is down on the ground

1392
00:54:55,490 --> 00:54:52,559
and it definitely insinuates some kind

1393
00:54:57,859 --> 00:54:55,500
of opening to something that's under

1394
00:54:59,900 --> 00:54:57,869
there otherwise they would not own it

1395
00:55:00,349 --> 00:54:59,910
and it's just very weird very very who

1396
00:55:02,269 --> 00:55:00,359
here

1397
00:55:03,650 --> 00:55:02,279
yes and like I said especially when you

1398
00:55:05,809 --> 00:55:03,660
you know kind of factor in the

1399
00:55:07,700 --> 00:55:05,819
long-standing allegations going back to

1400
00:55:09,529 --> 00:55:07,710
the early 80s that there are some kind

1401
00:55:11,539 --> 00:55:09,539
of you know underground facilities in

1402
00:55:13,759 --> 00:55:11,549
New Mexico spread across the state but

1403
00:55:17,660 --> 00:55:13,769
certainly I mean New Mexico is

1404
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:17,670
definitely the kind of red hair or I

1405
00:55:21,890 --> 00:55:19,170
shouldn't say red herring but the real

1406
00:55:24,349 --> 00:55:21,900
oddity within the you know locations

1407
00:55:25,609 --> 00:55:24,359
that have seen owned property and I mean

1408
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:25,619
the fact that he would own you know

1409
00:55:29,420 --> 00:55:27,690
property in New York City or Paris is

1410
00:55:32,299 --> 00:55:29,430
rather obvious these are of course major

1411
00:55:34,430 --> 00:55:32,309
cities I mean for the global Italy same

1412
00:55:36,890 --> 00:55:34,440
thing would go with London the US Virgin

1413
00:55:39,529 --> 00:55:36,900
Islands is a major tax haven for a lot

1414
00:55:40,970 --> 00:55:39,539
of the same elite network so it's easy

1415
00:55:42,410 --> 00:55:40,980
to understand why he would want

1416
00:55:45,049 --> 00:55:42,420
properties there I mean this is

1417
00:55:48,499 --> 00:55:45,059
definitely where the jet said VIPs like

1418
00:55:50,839 --> 00:55:48,509
to go and unwind so to speak but New

1419
00:55:53,660 --> 00:55:50,849
Mexico is not an area that's really

1420
00:55:56,059 --> 00:55:53,670
obvious in that sense but there's no

1421
00:55:58,220 --> 00:55:56,069
question that New Mexico is you know

1422
00:56:00,109 --> 00:55:58,230
very much the focal point of a lot of

1423
00:56:01,940 --> 00:56:00,119
black projects the US government has

1424
00:56:04,249 --> 00:56:01,950
been sponsoring for many years and

1425
00:56:06,289 --> 00:56:04,259
that's my mind is easily the most

1426
00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:06,299
compelling reason as to why Epstein

1427
00:56:08,450 --> 00:56:08,220
would want to put a major facility out

1428
00:56:11,510 --> 00:56:08,460
there

1429
00:56:14,599 --> 00:56:11,520
in the middle of nowhere essentially mm

1430
00:56:17,300 --> 00:56:14,609
hmm hmm well this here is a great way to

1431
00:56:19,820 --> 00:56:17,310
kind of wrap this up so to jump back to

1432
00:56:21,650 --> 00:56:19,830
the timing of these last few parts of

1433
00:56:24,380 --> 00:56:21,660
the Epstein story I really like this

1434
00:56:27,230 --> 00:56:24,390
lengthy quote where you talk about this

1435
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:27,240
New York Times piece about Epstein's DNA

1436
00:56:32,510 --> 00:56:30,210
spreading desires you write make light

1437
00:56:34,490 --> 00:56:32,520
of this story and details like Epstein's

1438
00:56:37,010 --> 00:56:34,500
desire to freeze his penis all you want

1439
00:56:39,620 --> 00:56:37,020
but these revelations are on an entirely

1440
00:56:42,109 --> 00:56:39,630
different level did Epstein or someone

1441
00:56:44,750 --> 00:56:42,119
close to him like say Robert Maxwell's

1442
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:44,760
daughter Elaine leaked this high

1443
00:56:48,829 --> 00:56:46,770
weirdness to The Times as part of an

1444
00:56:51,940 --> 00:56:48,839
insurance policy in the aftermath of

1445
00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:51,950
Ebstein's first reported suicide attempt

1446
00:56:56,570 --> 00:56:54,510
obviously it didn't do the trick as he

1447
00:56:58,820 --> 00:56:56,580
was dead ten days later but his death

1448
00:57:00,829 --> 00:56:58,830
coming after documents from his legal

1449
00:57:04,070 --> 00:57:00,839
woes were unsealed rather than after the

1450
00:57:06,140 --> 00:57:04,080
Times piece hit may constitute an expert

1451
00:57:08,450 --> 00:57:06,150
sleight of hand and this is assuming

1452
00:57:10,820 --> 00:57:08,460
Epstein was the leak a certain former

1453
00:57:12,829 --> 00:57:10,830
madam of his is still alive and present

1454
00:57:14,570 --> 00:57:12,839
and has largely avoided any legal

1455
00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:14,580
entanglements up to this point for her

1456
00:57:19,220 --> 00:57:17,310
role in his operation did you Lane

1457
00:57:21,290 --> 00:57:19,230
learned from her father about what type

1458
00:57:23,570 --> 00:57:21,300
of insurance policies to keep on hand

1459
00:57:25,370 --> 00:57:23,580
certainly she was the only family member

1460
00:57:27,230 --> 00:57:25,380
to insist that her father was murdered

1461
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:27,240
in the immediate aftermath of his death

1462
00:57:34,220 --> 00:57:30,810
and I think that's really well put

1463
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:34,230
together and maybe Gawain and Epstein's

1464
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:37,530
lawyer are really at a decision point on

1465
00:57:41,839 --> 00:57:40,170
what to do with any potential material

1466
00:57:45,260 --> 00:57:41,849
they have at this point if anyone had

1467
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:45,270
some kind of insurance policy to be

1468
00:57:49,609 --> 00:57:47,250
released upon his death it would be

1469
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:49,619
these figures and if they were to

1470
00:57:54,260 --> 00:57:51,450
release it it could be quite damaging

1471
00:57:56,780 --> 00:57:54,270
for them and maybe that is why Maxwell

1472
00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:56,790
has kind of avoided any prosecution

1473
00:58:01,700 --> 00:57:58,650
either even though she's termed the

1474
00:58:03,230 --> 00:58:01,710
madam yeah as fact as far as I'm aware I

1475
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:03,240
don't even think they know where she's

1476
00:58:08,359 --> 00:58:05,609
at right now she's essentially just kind

1477
00:58:10,130 --> 00:58:08,369
of disappeared I guess a bit leg what's

1478
00:58:12,290 --> 00:58:10,140
his name Joseph miss furred or whose

1479
00:58:13,570 --> 00:58:12,300
father whoever the central figure was in

1480
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:13,580
Russia Gades

1481
00:58:18,170 --> 00:58:16,650
yet another person who's probably

1482
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:18,180
sitting on a treasure trove of

1483
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:20,130
invaluable information about these

1484
00:58:24,410 --> 00:58:21,930
scandals and the

1485
00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:24,420
the US intelligence community with its

1486
00:58:28,549 --> 00:58:26,400
billions of dollars and agents across

1487
00:58:31,130 --> 00:58:28,559
the world and so forth apparently can't

1488
00:58:34,940 --> 00:58:31,140
find them or nobody wants to talk to

1489
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:34,950
them it's just like really right right

1490
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:37,290
and so as we're wrapping this thing up

1491
00:58:42,589 --> 00:58:40,530
do you see either the Epstein scandal

1492
00:58:44,809 --> 00:58:42,599
investigation or the nexium one

1493
00:58:48,740 --> 00:58:44,819
continuing on I mean there's a lot of

1494
00:58:51,620 --> 00:58:48,750
rings of culpability that could be

1495
00:58:53,690 --> 00:58:51,630
looped in here but maybe it has been

1496
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:53,700
cauterized and we'll just be quarantined

1497
00:58:58,579 --> 00:58:56,210
where it is do you think any of these

1498
00:59:00,829 --> 00:58:58,589
investigations will continue to rope in

1499
00:59:03,710 --> 00:59:00,839
any of the big players or are we done

1500
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:03,720
here I think it's quite possible I mean

1501
00:59:08,030 --> 00:59:05,490
I do think that things are going to die

1502
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:08,040
down in a couple of weeks you know now

1503
00:59:11,750 --> 00:59:09,930
after the initial kind of headlines have

1504
00:59:13,790 --> 00:59:11,760
come and gone and the revelations have

1505
00:59:15,770 --> 00:59:13,800
been made but it really would not

1506
00:59:19,130 --> 00:59:15,780
surprise me if stuff starts to come out

1507
00:59:20,510 --> 00:59:19,140
again going into the 2020 elections if

1508
00:59:21,770 --> 00:59:20,520
anything I mean that was one of the

1509
00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:21,780
surprises I actually thought about

1510
00:59:27,049 --> 00:59:24,720
Epstein being arrested in 2019 because I

1511
00:59:29,059 --> 00:59:27,059
mean certainly I think that Trump

1512
00:59:30,620 --> 00:59:29,069
probably is not going to be damaged by

1513
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:30,630
anything that comes out about Epstein

1514
00:59:34,700 --> 00:59:32,250
but quite a few figures within the

1515
00:59:38,660 --> 00:59:34,710
Democratic establishment we may well be

1516
00:59:40,190 --> 00:59:38,670
so 2019 seemed a little premature for

1517
00:59:41,690 --> 00:59:40,200
some of these revelations to start

1518
00:59:43,220 --> 00:59:41,700
coming out but I mean it wouldn't

1519
00:59:44,780 --> 00:59:43,230
surprise me if a new phase of the

1520
00:59:47,299 --> 00:59:44,790
investigation or something to that

1521
00:59:49,220 --> 00:59:47,309
effect starts to ratchet up again going

1522
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:49,230
into 2020 when we're getting closer to

1523
00:59:56,660 --> 00:59:53,970
the election certainly yes could be for

1524
01:00:00,170 --> 00:59:56,670
sure and it's going to be an interesting

1525
01:00:02,299 --> 01:00:00,180
election cycle just compared to what we

1526
01:00:05,390 --> 01:00:02,309
saw in the last one I'm sure things are

1527
01:00:07,970 --> 01:00:05,400
ramping up as the empire scrambles to

1528
01:00:10,250 --> 01:00:07,980
stay relevant because it seems like this

1529
01:00:13,220 --> 01:00:10,260
snowball has gotten about as big as it

1530
01:00:15,859 --> 01:00:13,230
can before it hits the fan and we'll see

1531
01:00:18,289 --> 01:00:15,869
I mean this might be collapsed the Roman

1532
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:18,299
Empire 2.0 in the next few years because

1533
01:00:22,609 --> 01:00:19,760
there's a lot of people saying

1534
01:00:25,819 --> 01:00:22,619
economically politically when it comes

1535
01:00:28,569 --> 01:00:25,829
to people's confidence any metric it's

1536
01:00:31,130 --> 01:00:28,579
not looking good for the US Empire

1537
01:00:34,250 --> 01:00:31,140
absolutely I mean or possibly even more

1538
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:34,260
horrendous a civil war or something akin

1539
01:00:37,340 --> 01:00:35,010
to what we can

1540
01:00:39,020 --> 01:00:37,350
saw in France in the early 60s when

1541
01:00:41,780 --> 01:00:39,030
essentially the special operations

1542
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:41,790
forces tried to overthrow to Gaul that's

1543
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:43,920
rather ominous in light of the fact that

1544
01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:45,450
a lot of trumps support within the

1545
01:00:48,410 --> 01:00:47,190
intelligence community appears to have

1546
01:00:51,860 --> 01:00:48,420
come from the Joint Special Operations

1547
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:51,870
Command and if history repeats itself in

1548
01:00:55,580 --> 01:00:53,970
that sense I really don't think we want

1549
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:55,590
to see what will happen in this country

1550
01:00:59,720 --> 01:00:57,570
if a lot of you know rogue figures from

1551
01:01:04,280 --> 01:00:59,730
the Delta Force or SIL Team six try to

1552
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:04,290
overthrow the government huh no no man

1553
01:01:09,500 --> 01:01:07,530
and you're just so knowledgeable there

1554
01:01:12,620 --> 01:01:09,510
are many layers in the conspiracy cake

1555
01:01:14,750 --> 01:01:12,630
you know them all you are my cake baker

1556
01:01:16,370 --> 01:01:14,760
of choice man and I really appreciate

1557
01:01:18,650 --> 01:01:16,380
you being here we got to call it in

1558
01:01:20,690 --> 01:01:18,660
somewhere but remind the people how to

1559
01:01:22,850 --> 01:01:20,700
get to your blog and some of the other

1560
01:01:23,390 --> 01:01:22,860
subjects you cover there because it's

1561
01:01:25,370 --> 01:01:23,400
vast

1562
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:25,380
yeah I've covered a lot of stuff and I

1563
01:01:28,490 --> 01:01:26,850
mean certainly if you're more interested

1564
01:01:30,260 --> 01:01:28,500
in these kind of right-wing networks

1565
01:01:32,420 --> 01:01:30,270
which really don't get a lot of play

1566
01:01:34,090 --> 01:01:32,430
especially in you know us conspiracy

1567
01:01:35,990 --> 01:01:34,100
theory sites and what-have-you

1568
01:01:37,790 --> 01:01:36,000
definitely check it out I've got

1569
01:01:39,590 --> 01:01:37,800
extensive series on the American

1570
01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:39,600
Security Council and with Circulo which

1571
01:01:43,010 --> 01:01:41,310
you know I've mentioned quite a bit in

1572
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:43,020
this interview and also the world and

1573
01:01:46,790 --> 01:01:44,970
the Communist League and so forth and

1574
01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:46,800
also I mean in addition to pair of

1575
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:48,510
politics as you may have gathered I've

1576
01:01:52,300 --> 01:01:50,610
also written a bit on UFOs and a lot of

1577
01:01:56,660 --> 01:01:52,310
other high weirdness and so forth

1578
01:01:59,870 --> 01:01:56,670
website is found at FISA few dot blog

1579
01:02:02,990 --> 01:01:59,880
spot.com buys up his vis u P and then

1580
01:02:05,870 --> 01:02:03,000
just view the iew all one word and then

1581
01:02:09,890 --> 01:02:05,880
blog spot.com and also i've actually

1582
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:09,900
begun work as well on a book nice man it

1583
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:11,730
is actually going to go into epstein

1584
01:02:15,470 --> 01:02:13,610
i've actually had to be a little

1585
01:02:17,570 --> 01:02:15,480
selective and some of the stuff i've

1586
01:02:19,550 --> 01:02:17,580
told you but definitely i'm aware of

1587
01:02:21,380 --> 01:02:19,560
some other links that i've maybe kind of

1588
01:02:24,170 --> 01:02:21,390
slightly hinted at in this interview

1589
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:24,180
between Profumo and Epstein and so forth

1590
01:02:28,340 --> 01:02:25,770
that will definitely be explored a lot

1591
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:28,350
more in the book and also this kind of

1592
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:30,330
network that you start to see emerge in

1593
01:02:35,060 --> 01:02:32,370
the new york city in the late 70s early

1594
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:35,070
80s that included Trump and Murdock and

1595
01:02:39,620 --> 01:02:37,920
later Robert Maxwell and so forth so

1596
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:39,630
yeah hopefully I can have that wrapped

1597
01:02:45,770 --> 01:02:44,010
up by the time the 2020 elections that's

1598
01:02:47,630 --> 01:02:45,780
awesome and that was gonna be one of my

1599
01:02:48,390 --> 01:02:47,640
closing questions for you is that it

1600
01:02:50,039 --> 01:02:48,400
seems like you

1601
01:02:52,049 --> 01:02:50,049
I have a book coming out at this point

1602
01:02:54,599 --> 01:02:52,059
or you got to get a patreon or something

1603
01:02:56,309 --> 01:02:54,609
I mean you're great at what you do like

1604
01:02:57,450 --> 01:02:56,319
I said I'm trying I mean the next step

1605
01:02:59,730 --> 01:02:57,460
will definitely be trying to find a

1606
01:03:00,960 --> 01:02:59,740
publisher Jason Horsley has been kind to

1607
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:00,970
kind of give me a little help with that

1608
01:03:05,130 --> 01:03:02,770
but obviously if you are a publisher

1609
01:03:08,339 --> 01:03:05,140
have no one I would be very interested

1610
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:08,349
to hear anything you have to say I'm

1611
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:10,089
definitely a pretty prolific writer and

1612
01:03:14,250 --> 01:03:11,680
I do anticipate that the books should be

1613
01:03:16,230 --> 01:03:14,260
ready sometime next spring so definitely

1614
01:03:17,870 --> 01:03:16,240
at that point in time I will be looking

1615
01:03:20,490 --> 01:03:17,880
for a publisher something I'd even

1616
01:03:22,589 --> 01:03:20,500
possibly considered crowdsourcing it I

1617
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:22,599
don't know but I mean I definitely think

1618
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:24,910
I could do quite a compelling book on

1619
01:03:27,690 --> 01:03:26,170
this whole nother world that would

1620
01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:27,700
hopefully try to provide more of a

1621
01:03:30,930 --> 01:03:29,680
coherent you know order to everything

1622
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:30,940
that we've discussed as well because I

1623
01:03:35,250 --> 01:03:32,890
know with all these you know names dates

1624
01:03:36,870 --> 01:03:35,260
it's problematic to keep everything you

1625
01:03:38,519 --> 01:03:36,880
know track of everything and that's one

1626
01:03:39,779 --> 01:03:38,529
of the reasons why I really wanted to do

1627
01:03:42,420 --> 01:03:39,789
a book that could kind of provide a

1628
01:03:45,390 --> 01:03:42,430
chronicle of all these events places and

1629
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:45,400
people and so forth very cool very cool

1630
01:03:49,380 --> 01:03:47,650
I don't think you'll have any problem

1631
01:03:51,299 --> 01:03:49,390
getting that published I might even put

1632
01:03:53,789 --> 01:03:51,309
you in contact with Chris Milligan from

1633
01:03:56,329 --> 01:03:53,799
shrined day who I think is one of the

1634
01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:56,339
best suppliers of high-quality

1635
01:04:01,230 --> 01:03:58,690
suppressed books as he likes to say I

1636
01:04:02,940 --> 01:04:01,240
say conspiracy books but you know that

1637
01:04:04,500 --> 01:04:02,950
Tron day was actually definitely that

1638
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:04,510
one of the first publishers I thought of

1639
01:04:08,519 --> 01:04:06,490
approaching because I am a big fan of

1640
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:08,529
trying day as well I mean definitely the

1641
01:04:13,319 --> 01:04:11,410
folks by Nick Brian Peter Levin dia so

1642
01:04:15,150 --> 01:04:13,329
forth I mean I'm a very big fan

1643
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:15,160
HBO Parelli I can't believe I almost

1644
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:17,170
forgot el Parelli uh but trying day is

1645
01:04:20,819 --> 01:04:18,910
great I mean that would definitely be a

1646
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:20,829
publisher I would be very interested in

1647
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:22,690
and mean it would definitely be quite an

1648
01:04:26,940 --> 01:04:24,910
honor to join their illustrious roster

1649
01:04:29,279 --> 01:04:26,950
about other authors that are represented

1650
01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:29,289
by trying day heck yeah man you'd be in

1651
01:04:35,190 --> 01:04:32,529
good company for sure but ah this has

1652
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:35,200
been a great time very much appreciative

1653
01:04:40,470 --> 01:04:37,450
of all the work you do you're one of the

1654
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:40,480
good ones keep it up and stay safe out

1655
01:04:44,990 --> 01:04:42,930
there man yeah hopefully

1656
01:04:44,990 --> 01:04:45,000
you

1657
01:04:52,359 --> 01:04:49,370
oh the humanity recluse the triumphant

1658
01:04:55,790 --> 01:04:52,369
return of the man who knows the plan and

1659
01:04:58,660 --> 01:04:55,800
let it be known there are no good guys

1660
01:05:02,530 --> 01:04:58,670
guys let that be the lesson of the day

1661
01:05:05,930 --> 01:05:02,540
they have all kinds of disagreements and

1662
01:05:08,750 --> 01:05:05,940
strategy differences and even some

1663
01:05:10,730 --> 01:05:08,760
conflicting goals and ideologies but the

1664
01:05:13,010 --> 01:05:10,740
only thing they really agree on is that

1665
01:05:14,710 --> 01:05:13,020
we are the dumb cattle that they have to

1666
01:05:18,010 --> 01:05:14,720
manage

1667
01:05:20,740 --> 01:05:18,020
hey but we did it we got back to current

1668
01:05:24,579 --> 01:05:20,750
events got back to good old conspiracy

1669
01:05:26,410 --> 01:05:24,589
101 it has been a little while now I've

1670
01:05:29,140 --> 01:05:26,420
just kind of had a desire to avoid

1671
01:05:31,420 --> 01:05:29,150
politically charged shows for the past

1672
01:05:34,059 --> 01:05:31,430
few months it's not that I've been

1673
01:05:35,980 --> 01:05:34,069
scared off not that I've been talked to

1674
01:05:39,309 --> 01:05:35,990
or anything really except the fact that

1675
01:05:42,460 --> 01:05:39,319
I have political fatigue something like

1676
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:42,470
5 g or GMO politics like we talked about

1677
01:05:45,609 --> 01:05:44,450
with dr. ferral last time or a little

1678
01:05:48,460 --> 01:05:45,619
bit different those are more like

1679
01:05:51,700 --> 01:05:48,470
campaigns really it's that I've been

1680
01:05:54,099 --> 01:05:51,710
burnt out on Trump anything for months

1681
01:05:56,230 --> 01:05:54,109
now I guess that's the real issue and

1682
01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:56,240
since I'm not really seeing it slowdown

1683
01:06:00,550 --> 01:05:58,250
or anything I can't seem to get away

1684
01:06:03,940 --> 01:06:00,560
from it I guess I should just give up

1685
01:06:06,010 --> 01:06:03,950
the idea of a tolerance break but

1686
01:06:07,420 --> 01:06:06,020
longtime listeners of this show should

1687
01:06:09,550 --> 01:06:07,430
have been familiar with the Jeffrey

1688
01:06:12,010 --> 01:06:09,560
Epstein name long before this latest

1689
01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:12,020
round of the news cycle we've talked

1690
01:06:17,710 --> 01:06:14,720
about him and pedo island and the Lolita

1691
01:06:21,099 --> 01:06:17,720
Express many times but never to this

1692
01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:21,109
depth of course a lot of the time th she

1693
01:06:25,420 --> 01:06:23,510
is trying to look at something that only

1694
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:25,430
a few people are looking at and this is

1695
01:06:30,130 --> 01:06:27,410
a case where everyone under the Sun is

1696
01:06:33,190 --> 01:06:30,140
covering it in some regard so it's a

1697
01:06:35,980 --> 01:06:33,200
different kind of challenge to do it

1698
01:06:40,510 --> 01:06:35,990
differently or really just better than

1699
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:40,520
the rest or at least as well as I did do

1700
01:06:45,730 --> 01:06:43,490
a lot of digging on the side and I had a

1701
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:45,740
little bit to add outside of the scope

1702
01:06:51,099 --> 01:06:48,770
of recluses work but if you read his

1703
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:51,109
blogs on this it's pretty clear that

1704
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:53,810
he's a great candidate to be our Peto

1705
01:07:01,120 --> 01:06:58,450
guy or epstein guy I should say Jesus

1706
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:01,130
but I also felt it was time to get into

1707
01:07:07,630 --> 01:07:04,730
nexium granted it definitely played a

1708
01:07:09,490 --> 01:07:07,640
backseat role here but there is a little

1709
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:09,500
connective tissue between them and I

1710
01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:11,930
definitely intentionally got that out in

1711
01:07:17,829 --> 01:07:14,240
the first hour so we could have such a

1712
01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:17,839
heavy hit and title nexium does deserve

1713
01:07:21,839 --> 01:07:20,240
more attention but I'm kind of waiting

1714
01:07:23,950 --> 01:07:21,849
for the books to come out I guess

1715
01:07:26,099 --> 01:07:23,960
although there are some other things in

1716
01:07:28,039 --> 01:07:26,109
the works we'll see how they shake out

1717
01:07:30,069 --> 01:07:28,049
but another challenge

1718
01:07:33,769 --> 01:07:30,079
has been finding a non-partisan

1719
01:07:36,140 --> 01:07:33,779
perspective on the Epstein case I looked

1720
01:07:37,849 --> 01:07:36,150
at more than a few people spent hours

1721
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:37,859
checking out their stuff and then had to

1722
01:07:44,289 --> 01:07:40,650
decide well they're too one-sided or

1723
01:07:47,029 --> 01:07:44,299
they rely too heavily on the queue [\h__\h]

1724
01:07:49,759 --> 01:07:47,039
but connection wise the william bar

1725
01:07:52,669 --> 01:07:49,769
thing is just the craziest to me in this

1726
01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:52,679
big wide world his dad gives Jeffrey

1727
01:07:57,799 --> 01:07:55,049
Epstein his first real job when he

1728
01:07:59,739 --> 01:07:57,809
shouldn't have so how does William part

1729
01:08:02,390 --> 01:07:59,749
his dad even know this guy

1730
01:08:05,299 --> 01:08:02,400
maybe Epstein was on to the blackmail

1731
01:08:07,429 --> 01:08:05,309
game so early that he just said hey

1732
01:08:09,890 --> 01:08:07,439
where's the deans house okay there it is

1733
01:08:12,380 --> 01:08:09,900
I guess I'll just film him until I get

1734
01:08:13,729 --> 01:08:12,390
something interesting I mean it's

1735
01:08:15,979 --> 01:08:13,739
possible there has to be some

1736
01:08:18,709 --> 01:08:15,989
explanation but I literally just made

1737
01:08:21,049 --> 01:08:18,719
that up I just want to be clear but he

1738
01:08:23,689 --> 01:08:21,059
did get this first job somehow he didn't

1739
01:08:25,609 --> 01:08:23,699
just walk in off the street to a school

1740
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:25,619
that used to have named children's

1741
01:08:31,039 --> 01:08:28,770
university by the way but William bars

1742
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:31,049
dad gives Epstein his first job and then

1743
01:08:36,620 --> 01:08:33,210
he's Attorney General of the goddamn

1744
01:08:40,039 --> 01:08:36,630
United States overseeing this same guys

1745
01:08:41,209 --> 01:08:40,049
child trafficking case talk about a

1746
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:41,219
weird coincidence

1747
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:43,770
and I wonder how many listeners out

1748
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:45,089
there have actually watched the

1749
01:08:50,410 --> 01:08:48,000
blacklist but this whole blackmail file

1750
01:08:53,299 --> 01:08:50,420
element has a real Raymond Reddington

1751
01:08:56,149 --> 01:08:53,309
feel to it in terms of there being a big

1752
01:08:58,549 --> 01:08:56,159
hoopla on the surface but the real layer

1753
01:09:00,769 --> 01:08:58,559
to watch is whoever swooped in and got

1754
01:09:03,459 --> 01:09:00,779
that blackmail data and then got out of

1755
01:09:06,709 --> 01:09:03,469
Dodge just like red Reddington would do

1756
01:09:08,780 --> 01:09:06,719
also I mentioned that weird Clinton in a

1757
01:09:11,269 --> 01:09:08,790
dress painting I guess it's a painting

1758
01:09:14,140 --> 01:09:11,279
not a photograph there's also a George W

1759
01:09:18,410 --> 01:09:14,150
Bush one of him throwing paper airplanes

1760
01:09:20,419 --> 01:09:18,420
over a collapsed Jenga tower you should

1761
01:09:22,669 --> 01:09:20,429
see it I don't know about that Clinton

1762
01:09:25,220 --> 01:09:22,679
won but I do look at that George Bush

1763
01:09:28,129 --> 01:09:25,230
won and think well I'd hang that up in

1764
01:09:30,849 --> 01:09:28,139
my office actually can't say the same

1765
01:09:33,340 --> 01:09:30,859
for any of that creepy Podesta art

1766
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:33,350
anyway I have to thank recluse again he

1767
01:09:38,770 --> 01:09:35,930
knows a lot about these lesser discussed

1768
01:09:40,599 --> 01:09:38,780
political networks and scandals and it

1769
01:09:42,730 --> 01:09:40,609
all came bubbling to the surface even

1770
01:09:45,340 --> 01:09:42,740
though he's been doing this research for

1771
01:09:47,290 --> 01:09:45,350
a long long time I've been really

1772
01:09:50,079 --> 01:09:47,300
looking forward to the release of this

1773
01:09:52,900 --> 01:09:50,089
show I think it's a return to form for

1774
01:09:55,090 --> 01:09:52,910
us a little bit and when we have a show

1775
01:09:56,740 --> 01:09:55,100
like this that's about recent events I

1776
01:10:00,340 --> 01:09:56,750
always want to get it out quickly and

1777
01:10:03,130 --> 01:10:00,350
add any important new news to the

1778
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:03,140
wrap-up section but the only noteworthy

1779
01:10:08,290 --> 01:10:05,570
thing I've heard since we recorded is

1780
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:08,300
that the autopsy showed Epstein had

1781
01:10:14,250 --> 01:10:10,730
broken bones in his neck that are

1782
01:10:17,860 --> 01:10:14,260
consistent with hanging or strangulation

1783
01:10:20,140 --> 01:10:17,870
so I guess the experts crack the case

1784
01:10:22,630 --> 01:10:20,150
guys we can all go home something

1785
01:10:26,730 --> 01:10:22,640
happened to Geoffrey Epstein's neck we

1786
01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:26,740
know that now it has been confirmed oh

1787
01:10:32,380 --> 01:10:30,400
just the stupidest story ever right

1788
01:10:34,420 --> 01:10:32,390
there was also something interesting

1789
01:10:36,850 --> 01:10:34,430
posted on the higher side chats

1790
01:10:39,670 --> 01:10:36,860
subreddit about Epstein's connections to

1791
01:10:42,250 --> 01:10:39,680
the AI community which might be worth a

1792
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:42,260
look if you're hungry for more well

1793
01:10:47,140 --> 01:10:44,690
let's talk about higher side news I know

1794
01:10:49,990 --> 01:10:47,150
a lot of people are still frustrated and

1795
01:10:52,630 --> 01:10:50,000
I still have a team working on the

1796
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:52,640
problems and I can say things are

1797
01:10:56,350 --> 01:10:54,530
looking good I've had a lot of meetings

1798
01:10:59,380 --> 01:10:56,360
with the company I'm working with and

1799
01:11:02,140 --> 01:10:59,390
we're a lot closer to solutions for some

1800
01:11:05,950 --> 01:11:02,150
of the big widespread problems that were

1801
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:05,960
having more so now than we were 48 hours

1802
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:08,690
ago I know a ton of plus members are

1803
01:11:13,150 --> 01:11:10,850
writing me about inactive subscriptions

1804
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:13,160
and they should be you know you're

1805
01:11:19,660 --> 01:11:16,730
paying for this thing but the access

1806
01:11:22,930 --> 01:11:19,670
cycle is out of alignment and I'm trying

1807
01:11:26,350 --> 01:11:22,940
to wait for a site-wide fix before I

1808
01:11:28,890 --> 01:11:26,360
spend another day doing a couple hundred

1809
01:11:31,420 --> 01:11:28,900
manual adjustments and emailing people

1810
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:31,430
individually which is how I spent my

1811
01:11:35,670 --> 01:11:33,130
weekend

1812
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:35,680
I don't mind but these are manual

1813
01:11:42,150 --> 01:11:38,530
changes I want something systemic so

1814
01:11:44,940 --> 01:11:42,160
that this doesn't recur one piece of

1815
01:11:48,210 --> 01:11:44,950
very good news is we are 100% sure that

1816
01:11:50,910 --> 01:11:48,220
new signups won't have a problem as only

1817
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:50,920
people who were ported over which is

1818
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:54,130
like 99% of people but hey one thing at

1819
01:11:59,700 --> 01:11:57,280
a time and long story short at this

1820
01:12:02,880 --> 01:11:59,710
point I have the fix I found the

1821
01:12:05,790 --> 01:12:02,890
solution it's just too big and important

1822
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:05,800
to be in my hands so I'm currently

1823
01:12:10,910 --> 01:12:08,890
settling on one of these skilled stripe

1824
01:12:14,190 --> 01:12:10,920
developers that I've talked with and

1825
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:14,200
before the next show our plus database

1826
01:12:20,340 --> 01:12:17,050
should all be back and in working order

1827
01:12:22,860 --> 01:12:20,350
on the new site I realize this

1828
01:12:25,710 --> 01:12:22,870
subscription database issue is affecting

1829
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:25,720
the old side as well but I think for the

1830
01:12:30,060 --> 01:12:27,730
vast majority of people the reason I

1831
01:12:32,430 --> 01:12:30,070
didn't pull that down yet that site is

1832
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:32,440
because it's the insurance policy it's

1833
01:12:37,170 --> 01:12:35,410
the thing we use while we're still

1834
01:12:39,510 --> 01:12:37,180
waiting for all the kinks to be worked

1835
01:12:43,110 --> 01:12:39,520
out of the new site and then I'm gonna

1836
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:43,120
switch it off the other big issue and

1837
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:47,410
big priority is plus access via RSS on

1838
01:12:51,330 --> 01:12:49,450
the new site people don't want to come

1839
01:12:53,490 --> 01:12:51,340
to the website and log in and listen

1840
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:53,500
every time although the site does look

1841
01:12:59,970 --> 01:12:56,110
good on mobile you can download the mp3

1842
01:13:02,010 --> 01:12:59,980
directly so you're not in a terrible

1843
01:13:06,270 --> 01:13:02,020
situation but people want to plug in

1844
01:13:08,910 --> 01:13:06,280
that feed to their podcast apps and have

1845
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:08,920
no problem we're getting on that the

1846
01:13:12,870 --> 01:13:10,690
team is still trying to figure out what

1847
01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:12,880
it is about the server configuration

1848
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:15,280
that isn't allowing RSS feed access for

1849
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:18,010
plus people but once that problem is

1850
01:13:21,420 --> 01:13:19,930
found it should just be a flip of the

1851
01:13:24,810 --> 01:13:21,430
switch maybe we have to turn off a

1852
01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:24,820
firewall or something but that's another

1853
01:13:30,090 --> 01:13:26,710
thing on the list that I'm hoping is

1854
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:30,100
fixed in the next 48 hours and the last

1855
01:13:35,730 --> 01:13:33,310
of the big issues for THD is being

1856
01:13:37,980 --> 01:13:35,740
removed from the iTunes Store entirely

1857
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:37,990
and that's something that the company

1858
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:39,610
I've been working with is confident they

1859
01:13:43,470 --> 01:13:41,410
can fix apparently they're going

1860
01:13:45,990 --> 01:13:43,480
straight to the top and trying to get

1861
01:13:49,980 --> 01:13:46,000
our old listing and all those

1862
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:49,990
reviews back in order so to quote the

1863
01:13:55,620 --> 01:13:53,410
big lebowski nothing is [\h__\h] and it

1864
01:13:58,440 --> 01:13:55,630
can all be made right again and we're

1865
01:14:02,010 --> 01:13:58,450
Klein our way back to dominance more

1866
01:14:04,580 --> 01:14:02,020
each day I am really sorry for the

1867
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:04,590
trouble and the confusion and the delays

1868
01:14:09,780 --> 01:14:07,330
but I just make the show and I try to

1869
01:14:12,330 --> 01:14:09,790
outsource the tech side of things and

1870
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:12,340
when they screw up I'm kind of left

1871
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:13,930
holding the bag and I don't even know

1872
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:17,530
what to do with it but we are making

1873
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:19,690
progress and we've also fixed a lot of

1874
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:22,210
the small simple things on the new site

1875
01:14:28,770 --> 01:14:25,810
to the contact form works now all of the

1876
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:28,780
sign up for plus language magically goes

1877
01:14:34,230 --> 01:14:32,050
away when you're signed in that'll help

1878
01:14:36,060 --> 01:14:34,240
you determine what version of the site

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you're looking at and the free and plus

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shows are playing for people as they

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should be both on the front page slider

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and in the actual post themselves if I'm

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01:14:50,610 --> 01:14:47,380
wrong let me know but my tests seem to

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01:14:53,220 --> 01:14:50,620
have worked out flawlessly the scene was

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a test episode I guess this is test

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number two it's a lot guys people have

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01:15:02,670 --> 01:14:59,890
asked about a joint session and I am

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01:15:05,070 --> 01:15:02,680
really so slammed with this stuff and

1889
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trying to get all the August shows out

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in ten days that I wanted to say we're

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not going to be doing one this month but

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I changed my mind will do one it'll be

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Wednesday the 28th 7:00 p.m. Pacific

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time there is a place on the new site

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for the date and time of the next joint

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session and I'm gonna play around with

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the backend and see if I can update that

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spot on the website Wednesday the 28th

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I'll talk to you then

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and hopefully we'll be in a much better

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place with everything maybe I'll be

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fielding questions about the new

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infrastructure who knows I'm sure

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that'll be entertaining

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but I hope you liked this show if you

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01:15:49,460 --> 01:15:47,670
happen to find it as always I'm doing my

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01:15:52,370 --> 01:15:49,470
best here and the Plus show offers a

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01:15:54,050 --> 01:15:52,380
whole lot more in the second hour we

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talked about Ebstein's links to

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transhumanism and has strange beliefs

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labyrinths temples and other weirdness

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on Epstein's properties trying to decode

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Epstein's temple the perfume Oh affair

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and tracing back that blackmail file a

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few decades and of course Roy Cohn and

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Roger stone it's crazy they didn't make

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it in the first hour but we talked about

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so much and finally we added a segment

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about how the blackmail file relates to

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ufology and I really liked that section

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as well as the section with Nasim about

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ufology as well as a section with Walter

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01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:34,739
Bosley recently about ufology if you

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don't have Plus you missed all of that

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because it does take that long to ease

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into those waters if it's not the reason

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01:16:48,170 --> 01:16:45,510
the guest came on the show but they all

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seem to be circling around the same

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01:16:53,090 --> 01:16:50,850
general ideas that we need to look at

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all this with a discerning skeptical eye

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and not get caught up in UFOs on CNN oh

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my god you know chill out but you know

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this anyway I'm getting out of here do

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check out recluses writings and big

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thanks for listening and for all the

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patience as we sort out these issues

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check out the new site and if you see

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any problems let me know we're fixing

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them we got a list and I want to make

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the most of it so let's kick the tires

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you know I'm already overwhelmed so

1942
01:17:29,609 --> 01:17:27,459
and I will be nose to the grindstone

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trying to rebuild my conspiracy

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podcasting empire and until next time

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I'm getting out of here

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your move pedo protectors cultured

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acceptors and blackmail data collectors

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your [\h__\h] have a drink in the smoke

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listen to the cast shiny shiny spotlight

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the criminals on blast the pinstripe man

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of morning and families of Finance dupe

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on Windsor and Rothschild

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the kids don't stand a chance

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the kids don't the kids don't stand the

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01:18:21,580 --> 01:18:17,840
kids don't stand a chance I said the

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01:18:25,899 --> 01:18:21,590
kids don't the kids don't stand the kids

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don't stand a chance we're looking for

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the answer to questions never asked so

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we come to the car wood for the higher

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side chat the Pinstripe man of morning

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and families of Finance do pawn Windsor

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and Rothschild the kids don't stand a

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chance the kids don't the kids don't

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stand the kids don't stand a chance I

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said the kids don't the kids don't stand

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the kids don't stand

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chance involved in shady business we try

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to get a glance we're working on the

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numbers resistance must advance the

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Pinstripe men of mourning and families

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of Finance DuPont Windsor and Rothschild

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the kids don't stand a chance the kids

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don't the kids don't stand the kids

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don't stand a chance I said the kids

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01:20:02,380 --> 01:19:57,590
don't the kids don't stand the kids

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don't stand a chance the kids don't the

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01:20:09,490 --> 01:20:05,630
kids don't stand the kids don't stand a

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chance I said the kids don't the kids